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[–] valkyrieangela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Purity politics needs to end. Some of you MFs need to learn strategy, and play a game like Civ. If Iran harasses Israel, bully for us. Two of the worst people we know are now fighting, we should celebrate this reprieve.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago

Exactly. It's possible to see a fight between two drunk idiots and just hope that they both get hurt and nobody else does.

We don't have to take sides unless you know one of them personally.

And I don't know either of these cunts.

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[–] MetalMachine 17 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Is the Iran regime bad? Yes. Are they colonial outpost that is actively committing genocide? No. Are the Iranian people settlers like the Israelis? No.

Who is dragging the US into war with Iran and potentially WW3? Israel.

Does this help maybe?

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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It’s called critical support. I can support both Iran’s self-defense from genocidal maniacs while simultaneously criticizing them for their human rights abuses. It’s something that people with a functioning brain can do - hold two ideas in their head at once.

Besides, Israel has killed more gay people in the last year just through sheer numbers of the people they’ve exterminated than Iran has ever.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Two ideas? In this economy?

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[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There's a difference between carpet bombing an entire country (also not defensible) and deliberately removing gay people from your population using the legal system.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/1600962503-study-iran-tops-list-for-most-dangerous-destination-for-gay-travelers

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and carpet bombing is entirely more evil. Iran is the lesser of two evils here. Isn’t that what liberals said we should always strive for? The lesser of two evils?

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[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 11 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

No one is cheering for "Iran". They are cheering for a country standing up for itself against an aggressive colonizing force bent on expansionism through violent actions currently engaged in unwarranted genocide.

[–] Liberteez@lemm.ee 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (5 children)

A country which happens to be Iran, another perpetuator of genocides

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

America literally executes Down's people.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/divided-supreme-court-vacates-injunction-permits-alabama-to-execute-intellectually-disabled-prisoner

So now what? We're supposed to cheer on Israel, who literally starves children, because sometimes Iran does things as bad as we do?

Twist your brain more into a pretzel, why don't you.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

When both sides are terrible, you cheer for neither

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Ay yes, Iran, so progressive

Yes this is what the Iranian government y'all god-damn mental broads are cheering on does

Disgusting

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[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Yeah, when a country persecutes queer people they lose the right to defend themselves from countries building weapons caches in their boarders. Then using those caches to blow up civilians.

That's why I'm in favour of bombing London and Florida.

Do you see how fucking stupid you are?

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago (6 children)

What about Israel, a country that literally executes an entire nation of people, the Palestinians?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What about not cheering for either one? Or just fuckin stop with the immediate what abouts?

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[–] SpaceCadet 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is OP saying "support Israël instead" ?

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[–] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In this conflict I learned to take no side, except the one of the victims who didn't ask to be involved.

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[–] suswrkr@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

yeah yeah let's go war! morons. USA executes poor people, gay or not. how is that for equality and representation?

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The issue is that you're acting as if the people who were always in favour of the Iranian government wouldn't have cheered anyways, and that people just turned "pro iran" after they bombed Israel, when that is clearly not the case.

You are going to see people who are in favour of the Iranian government cheer on, but that doesn't mean that they are people who weren't in favour of the Iranian regime suddenly turned pro Iranian government.

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[–] Ronno 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is it possible they are both just very very bad?

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

It's not so much cheering on Iran, but not giving a shit about Israel. Like, Israel just attacked Iran, they reap what they sow.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Eh, one side is committing genocide, has been ethnically cleansing Palestinian, continually attacking neighboring countries, and effectively murdering gay people as well (do you think the 2000 pound bombs make an exception for gay people?) and the other side is a theocracy with all the flaws that come with that. When it comes down to it, Israel is far, far worse than Iran. You can support parties you're critical of.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Israel is also a theocracy.

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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago

Me when a guy in a white supremacist administration makes a nazi salute and the ADL goes "no, it wasn't"

Me when an interest group which for decades has cried out against genocide and targeted ethno-religious persecution actively and deliberately proclaims it is going to eliminate an entire ethno-religious group from a large area of land

Me when people are defending that

I'm not cheering for either of them and wish they both get what they deserve.

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