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Just something I've seen a lot of lately.

Chud relative once complained to me that "the far left" used AI to "Prove Yasuke was a black samurai and it was hilariously bad. They're trying to rewrite history to make it woke."

Fucking weird projection from the right.

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[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

used AI to “Prove Yasuke was a black samurai and it was hilariously bad. They’re trying to rewrite history to make it woke.”

did we go back in time and change every primary source or something?
like, Yasuke was famous and the fact that he was black was notable, so a lot of people wrote about him lol

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"no but he wasn't a samurai he was a retainer or some shit and they're using AI to make him look more important than he was"

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

lol, a "retainer" in feudal japan usually was a samurai, with Yasuke being a samurai retainer to Oda Nobunaga, one of the most famous and important feudal lords of the era

literally as nonsensical as "he wasn't a knight, he was just a landless member of the nobility that served his lord in a combat role and was anointed"

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

that and one of the prominently online nobunaga descendants being like "he was a samurai for our clan"

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

Oh I know. But sometimes these people are just so dead set on being racist, they'll believe anything.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

Honestly regardless of his role, who cares how he's depicted in fictional media? Was Abraham Lincoln an actual vampire hunter? No, but I still enjoyed the movie. They didn't depict the Spartans as being into little boys (and yet they did bring up that the Greeks were, so why the selectivity?), and they also depicted the Persians who were far more technologically advanced in a very bizarre and obviously historically inaccurate fashion; Of course when you bring this up they'll cry 'artistic liberties', which they won't tolerate any of with Yasuke.

Also the last samurai, shogun and Ronin, all movies with white main characters in a Japanese setting, and not a peep from these people.

[–] Lavender@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago

It sounds like cope because they tried to get AI to take their side with easily debunked racist talking points.

They've tried to use AI to validate race science and it's clear it doesn't hold up. So they've convinced themselves that the left is using AI to support their arguments and think the AI is rigged against chuds.

(Insert clunky reference to white genocide in South Africa here.)

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

I haven't heard them do anything like this, but I have seen plenty of people CHUDs would think are "far left" debunking AI bullshit. So it is probably just an attempt to muddy the waters, a sort of "everyone uses AI so there's no way to tell the truth at all, and everything is meaningless(so we should just agree with my viewpoint). They do this shit all the time, they do a shitty thing, get called out for it, then insist everyone except them is doing it, then act like it is ok for them to do it "because everyone else is" and then the new shitty CHUD thing gets normalised. It's the cycle toxic people always go through with their friends and family, just on a society wide scale.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Every time I see one of these things I see an artifact from a weird, hostile smelly fart room of a culture built up like a stalagmite from sixteen thousand layers of preexisting greivance lore. It's all so vacuous and spite-based, I can't even bring myself to feel bad about not feeling bad for these people anymore. They're such embarassing losers

[–] VHS@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

That's bizarre, if anything the right is always using AI to promote their views and the left is much more averse to it.

[–] jjsandwich8@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I am shocked that I haven't seen or heard of them doing this. I am constantly online and yet I don't know anything like this

[–] jjsandwich8@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But now since I've seen this I will probably notice it everywhere now lmao

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's specificly on the chud side of YouTube and Facebook. I only know of it because my entire family is mostly chud and show me some new kind of horror everytime they visit.

Yes, I know, I should cut them out of my life. It's... complicated.

I do get the feeling that AI is going to be used more and more by Chuds to explain away things they don't like (while using it themselves to spread disinfo, it's always projection with these guys).

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The “look what I found on Facebook” thing is part of a recent trend where chuds are coping by pretending left-wing beliefs are for boomers and all young people are chuds. See it a lot on Canadian politics discussions lol. They’ve been vaguely effective at reaching young people here over housing costs and have convinced themselves everyone under 35 is racist and wokeness is for people over 65. Even saw someone claim this explicitly on some immigration survey posted on Reddit, and the fucking cross tabs in the linked article said the opposite lol.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

Which is weird because

  1. Ain't no leftists using Facebook

  2. These same Chuds will call the protesters Gen Z