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[–] techwooded@lemmy.ca 185 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Telling too that the Democratic leadership said after the fact that one of the reasons they lost was that they relied too much on small donators instead of billionaire donators. Disgusting

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Weren't they the ones touting their 'largest warchest ever' sometime around Harris taking up the mantle last year?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

They were. Where's that money now?

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Which of course means they’ve learned absolutely nothing, and we can look forward to more of the same awful messaging and misguided/corrupt representation next time.

Dems need to be replaced with a new party, I know FPTP is a challenge but the alternatives are worse.

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[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 100 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Harris just disappeared, has zero interest in actually being a leader, has zero interest in spearheading a democratic movement, is doing jack shit to help make this transition easier through good will projects, she literally doing nothing, yet I’ve started getting please gib money texts with her name on them again… maybe if she hadn’t pulled a vanishing act we could at least talk but like, wtf is she even doing that she needs my money? I don’t even live in her state.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Based on what we know now, Harris would have been a bad president. She lost and didn’t ask for a recount when she should have and then disappeared. AOC and Bernie on the other hand have taken a stand against fascism. I’m with them not the d’s.

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[–] mcv@lemm.ee 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was so excited after she picked Tim Walz. It was starting to look like the most progressive ticket in decades, she was ahead in the polls, and then she turned around and started campaigning with Republicans and CEOs. Total betrayal.

And yeah, she disappeared. I hear more from Biden and Obama than from her.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (7 children)

She made an imaginary rule in her head that she had to copy 100% of Biden’s polices no matter how unpopular.

The Democrats were offered a total reset from Biden’s unpopularity and instead decided to repeat it all. It was incredible how they threw away what should have been an easier victory.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I’m pretty far left of Harris ideologically and never really liked her or thought she was worthy of these powerful offices. I also never really expected that much from her. That being said, I was passionate about dropping Biden and supporting her campaign even at that late hour, given the immense implications of electing trump for a second term. I donated money, and rallied friends and family to get on board. Then she did that DNC speech and talked about the ‘strongest military’ yadda yadda yadda. All of that energy and enthusiasm instantly evaporated. Nothing she or her campaign did after that motivated any active support from me and I had to really fight off the urge to not vote for her. I’m entirely done with the Democratic Party as run by the current regime. Unless that party reforms, the US is absolute toast.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I blame it mostly on Biden refusing to drop out, but yes political consultant bullshitters and billionaires are a huge problem. AIPAC especially.

[–] twinkbobdylan@pawb.social 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

i wish bernie won in 2016 :(

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know Gore won in 2000, we just gloss over the theft and the nazis scream about rigged elections because every accusation is a confession.

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[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago

He is 100% right like always

[–] Soliae@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Proper headline:

“Harris Chose Billionaires Over Working Class; Voters Chose to Burn It Down Rather Than Submit to More Democrat Pretending”

If the choice is between a fast death with Trump and a slow death with corporate Democrats morphing into Republicans, can we really blame folks for choosing a fast death?

We need progressive, true left politics if we ever want to recover.

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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democrats got paid to lose plain and simple

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Corporate democrats #1 policy: protect the 1% at all costs

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I don't have a ton of confidence the working class would choose someone who did choose them. Bernie is that candidate, and shenanigans aside from the dem primary, he didn't swing a landslide.

[–] jmf@lemm.ee 47 points 1 week ago

Most of the US working class still hates and fears the things that benefit them, such as socialist policies and unions. Propoganda dies hard.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"A lot of the people are saying it was Joe Biden's fault that Kamala Harris lost the election … not true. It was the fault of Kamala Harris and her consultants,"

Full clip here

He also said "I ran all over the country to try to elect her" so it's a pretty longshot from these comments claiming both sides bad. If all of you, everyone eligible to vote in 2024, had listened to Bernie Sanders then Kamala Harris would be president and none of this would have happened.

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Billionaires chose Trump, so Trump won. That's how US politics works

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[–] MetalMachine 27 points 1 week ago (14 children)

She failed to differentiate herself from biden in many different ways. One of which was her stance on genocide. Less people generally came out and voted for her in part due to these factors

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Lol Americans didn't stay home for gaza, most Americans didn't give a shit about that.

It was always about the cost of living. The average Democratic voter mindset is: "I voted Biden last time and nothing changed except food got more expensive, why bother voting"

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Cuz they all went to billionaire schools that tells them support billionaires and the economy will be good.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I never felt Harris actually stood for anything. This is easily the first election where I felt all the decisions made by the DNC were hard wrong - and I already thought the DNC fucked everything up when the turned on Sanders - but this time they really chose every bad option they could. A senior citizen that was absolutely having problems (outside the debate performance) and choosing an inclusivity* candidate that really had a checkered past of making climbing the ladder a priority while having no real policy gains or stances. Even in the lead up to everything, the other candidates were all but brushed aside. No real debate over policy or where the country was going.

She said whatever middle of the road thing needed to be said to appeal to enough people while leveling mealy criticism at best for the real problems, from Israel’s shitty war to attacks worker’s right in the US. We went from a candidate that should have never run again to a candidate that hadn’t given anyone a reason to want her to run at all at the last minute. And that’s awful, especially to lose against trump.

  • I hate to even say it, but the fact is that the DNC wanted to run a black female. They banked on the (I can’t think of the word/name for it - people who want to do things for a minority community, but do so cluelessly, remove agency of the group, disregard the actual needs and culture of the group. Usually modestly wealthy white people making “programs” for minority communities) people to vote for the feel-good of voting a minority person up while not actually thinking that people would have needs and policy concerns that would influence their vote, or their willingness to vote at all. The DNC already had “protect the rich white people” as a top priority. They didn’t think people were smart enough to sense that, and everyone really had a feeling that the Democrats didn’t care about them anymore.

Edit: found it. It’s “white saviorism” or “white savior complex.”

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