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[–] nerv@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 days ago

This is all about standard issues.

[–] Archangel1313@lemm.ee 221 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"I don't have an accent...YOU have an accent!!"

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 52 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I moved to California last year from Oklahoma. Occasionally I will say something about moving from Oklahoma and people are like, "oh that makes sense, you have a Midwestern accent sometimes". We all sound normal to ourselves but everyone has an accent. Like the way California people say their O's.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So, I'm from Seattle, basically, and for the longest time I thought no, I do not have an accent.

Then I learned that the reason I thought that was because well, the accent I have is basically the least distinct from the 'General American English' or 'Region Indistinct American' accent, out of all other regional accents....

With that 'General American' accent being what nationwide newscasters, voice actors and movie stars either developed on their own, or were trained into, for being easily intelligible to any other American accent/dialect speaker, or as just sort of a rounded approximation of 'American', with no specified regionality to the character.

Thats not to say the PNW or Cali or just general US West accents are all exactly the same as 'General American'... they are not... its just that they are the least difficult to understand from a general audience perspective out of other regional US accents/dialects... or at least that is the explanation I've heard.

As I am aware, the main difference between PNW/Cali English and other US regions is that we have completed the cot-caught merger. Absolutely no difference in pronunciation, the verb sounds are the same... whereas in much of the rest of the US, these are different, distinct vowel sounds. We just use the 'cot' pronounciation for both.

Bot cot thot slot thought caught fraught not spot dot.

All the same. No rolling or bending of the first vowel into the u to make a more complex vowel sound, all just 'bot' or 'dot'.

That and pop vs soda vs coke.

For whatever reason, I usually say soda, but that did make me an oddball of most people around me near Seattle saying 'pop'... but a lot of other places in the US use soda, but also a lot of other places use 'coke' to refer to any ... soft drink... which confuses and aggrevates my Autistic brain lol.

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There are a few things that I remember being distinct to Californian accents/dialects as compared to Seattle:

One is the rising tone at the end of the sentence... thing.

I always called this a valley girl accent, and this is because no one I knew as a kid spoke that way... unless their family had recently moved north, from Cali.

Now though, it is more common generally in the PNW, at least in my own experience.... but also that could literally be because a lot of Californians have migrated north.

Another silly, but super easy tell someone isn't from Seattle: Their accent may be essentially indistinguishable from a PNW accent... but they always, always refer to I-5, as 'the 5'... instead of 'eye-five'.

No one born and raised near Seattle does this.

I-5 is the main highway that goes all the way down from Vancouver BC, through Seattle, Portland, San Fran, LA, and runs through all of those cities, so its a major reference point of conversation in all those places.

And yeah, the regional vocab difference for how people refer to it is an example of a difference.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Midwesterners are the only people I've ever met who don't think they have an accent. And I'm like "you have a midwest accent." They're stunned because to them it's just a "normal" accent, and they know it must be so because it's what the TV man talks like. Obviously I know midwesterners who know they have an accent and the TV man is trained to speak that way. But everyone else I meet and know knows their own accent and can recognize variations of it. They're not so conscious of how they make their accent happen, obviously, since it is their own. But they know they sound different from other people

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[–] SolarMyth@aussie.zone 49 points 1 week ago (3 children)

People in other countries use all sorts of crazy "languages". We don't bother with that here, we just talk normally.

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi 12 points 1 week ago

Why can't people just be normal. I am being my normal self, but other people seem different. Bastard freaks.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 123 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Would be great if an equally clueless European followed up with

"So I visited your country and remembered seeing this post but when I got there, none of my stuff would fit in your outlets. What the fuck?"

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 week ago

Take the adapter off, moron.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 week ago (7 children)

One of worlds longest running experiments is when an european tourist visited america and tried to boil water using a kettle and a travel adapter.

The paper published on the experiment noted that water finally reached temperatures of 63c in 2017.

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[–] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 121 points 1 week ago

I mean, they're right. It does sound really stupid

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No-one going to mention that they said countries and named two continents?

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 week ago

I didn't realize because I am too used to it.

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Because it reads like this:

“In other countries, like [those in] Europe or South America”.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 days ago

No it doesn't

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago

People like this think Trump is a genius

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 44 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Not do we need a "special adapter" but a converter as well, as Households in the US use 110V opposed to the usual 230V.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Houses in the US generally have 220v too but not at ordinary wall outlets

There's a technology connections video on it if you're interested in the specifics

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

A few years ago there was the possibility of me moving to the US from Germany and if I would have bought a house there, I would probably have installed additional Schuko-outlets all over the place.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Yes and in Europe houses generally have 400V too but not at ordinary wall outlets

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There's a technology connections video on it if you're interested in the specifics

Exactly :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMmUoZh3Hq4

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[–] bampop@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh don't worry about that, just plug in your 110V appliances and watch them run twice as fast

[–] amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

When I was 17 my father brought back a stereo from Japan. I was too eager to use it and plugged that directly to 220. It worked for a glorious 2 minutes. We got it working again after we replaced the transformer. Still have it and it still works fine to this day. Learned a lesson too!

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 week ago

It's less of a problem nowadays where most things have switching power supplies that can handle either just fine

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[–] sowitzer@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I know it’s difficult to tell online, but I read that as a joke post. Not serious. But it’s better for others to make fun of others for being clueless I guess.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. It always strikes me as bizarre how many people online see something that would only be satire in a sane world and completely assume it's serious. They have no doubts. Never occurred to them it might be a joke...

[–] trashboat@midwest.social 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)
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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Regardless of where you are, can we all agree that no one's really perfected the electrical outlet yet?

NA plugs make contact without being fully seated, and can leave their live and neutral pins exposed. Worn outlets just let plugs fall out of them (I have 3 or so outlets in my apartment that are borderline unusable because of this).

British plugs are bulky and turn into caltrops when dropped on the floor.

European plugs have the same problem. And you only get like, one outlet per receptacle? Guess you're shit out of luck if you wanna plug anything else in the same spot.

Most of the rest of the world just copied Europe or the UK.

I like Denmark's plug though. Cute lil smiley face.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Euro plugs are perfect. They connect well, have no live metal exposed, power strips are safe, it can handle 230V Without a problem. They are being copied everywhere because they are well designed.

[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I think the Swiss have the best Europlug-based system. Their three-conductor plugs have the same footprint as basic Europlugs, which makes for very dense plug arrangements. Unlike e.g. the German Schuko plug they only fit in one orientation so you get no polarity issues.

It's pretty neat.

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[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

i like the compactness of this triple-plug design used for Type-J, used in switzerland and lichtenstein, although it missed some other points (no insulated pins, no on-off switch, etc)

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[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

European plugs have the same problem. And you only get like, one outlet per receptacle? Guess you're shit out of luck if you wanna plug anything else in the same spot.

The standard amount of outlets per receptacle here (Sweden) is two. Maybe in very old houses it would be only one, but that's rare. If you run into that, there are splitters that make one into two, you don't need to have an extender to split it.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 20 points 1 week ago (11 children)

I don't think it's fair to judge plugs by how they behave when dropped on the floor (unless they're exposing live wires). Do you often have a lot of loose plugs lying around? If you find yourself unplugging things a lot to turn them off, you may be interested to hear the switch was invented not long after the light bulb for exactly this reason.

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Does NA not have insulated pins? Where a half inch of so of the pin nearest the plug head is insulated so when plugging in the exposed part of the pin is inside the hole before the pin makes contact with live power?

[–] terminhell@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah well, it's been the law here for 20 years.

I'm also reading about how our NZ/Australia socket was based on an American 125v socket design, later upgraded to allow 240v.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS/NZS_3112

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago (7 children)

It's a right of passage for a kid to learn what a 120 volt shock feels like if they're careless in unplugging something. One pin is just an unforgettable sensation, while both will knock you down. The real mystery is why code requires the outlets installed upside down. Technology Connections did at least one video on the differences of outlets in the world, and his point was that if the ground pin was above the other two, something falling on a partially exposed plug would rest on the harmless ground and not what it can do, short out the two live pins. But then we wouldn't get the cute faces, so...

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The real mystery is why code requires the outlets installed upside down.

That isn't code. 2:25

and his point was that if the ground pin was above the other two, something falling on a partially exposed plug would rest on the harmless ground

His point is that this is incredibly unlikely to ever actually help, and it's largely an urban legend.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago

that's cute. nah tho. the pins are just… out there. ready to kill you

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[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

UK plug for sure is amazing, the caltrops is just to get you ready for standing on Lego.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AU outlets sound pretty good by comparison. I'm sure there are improvements to be made, but I never have any of those issues.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Average American voter?

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I live in a country with two plug types and actually have to use a fuckload of converters

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[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

The Type I plug was developed by the US government but blocked in Congress during the FDR administration by the Republicans and southern Democrats on the basis that it was a change from the multiple different outlets being used at the time. The 3 core plug didn't become standard until 1965.

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