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Original post: https://bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3lmuz3nr62k26

Email from Bluesky in the screenshot:

Hi there,

We are writing to inform you that we have received a formal request from a legal authority in Turkey regarding the removal of your account associated with the following handle (@carekavga.bsky.social) on Bluesky.

The legal authority has claimed that this content violates local laws in Turkey. As a result, we are required to review the request in accordance with local regulations and Bluesky's policies.

Following a thorough review, we have determined that the content in question violates local laws in Turkey, as outlined in the legal request. In compliance with these legal provisions, we have restricted access to your account for users.

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[–] Ravenfreak@discuss.online 6 points 16 hours ago

I'm not even surprised lol. Just another reason why communities like Lemmy and forums are better than any social media platform. Man I hope the Fediverse keeps growing, the more people that see through this bs and jump ship and find us over here in the Fediverse the better.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

i don't get why this is shocking; if you do business in a country you have to follow local laws.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly at this point I want to host a distributed Lemmy instance and completely ignore all country laws in favor of complete and absolute freedom of speech.

It might sound extreme, but pretty sure at this point I'd be willing to die for it given the state of global politics.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, man. I don't think Kiddie Pornhub is a good idea.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Who the fuck said anything about porn of any kind? People always use protecting kids as a way to censor the Internet and it's almost always in bad faith.

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[–] Wimster@lemmy.wtf 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is Bluesky the next X ??? Kissing the ring of authoritarian leaders?

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Remove one Turk from the service or remove the entire service from Turkey?

Essentially the question Bluesky executives had to make here.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

they all exist in the same world and they will all need to figure out how to make money sooner or later

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 97 points 1 day ago

And now you know why corporations and politicians don't use mastodon

[–] cotlovan@lemm.ee 83 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, all the bsky lovers are now facing the reality. None of the corpos have user's interest in mind. They only care about numbers: number of active users' data that they can sell to the highest bidder.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Any service provider, private or corporate, must comply with the law. Otherwise the service provider will face the consequences.

[–] cotlovan@lemm.ee 0 points 17 hours ago

I agree with that part. What I don't agree with is corpos posing as holders of truth and bastions of morality.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 76 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Fake Fediverse is fake.

Fuck Turkey and fuck however they want it spelt.

[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Re: "(...) fuck however they want it spelt."

As a Turkish person, I'm with you on this.

If the Turkish government wants you to refer to Turkey as Türkiye, then they shouldn't be allowed to call the US "Amerika Birleşik Devletleri": they should be required to pronounce it United States of America.

Let's see how they like it then, lol. "Yunayıted Sıtets af Amerika", hah.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also quite awkward requiring others to spell the country with letters that don't exist in most alphabets, and therefore not on commonly used keyboards.

Sure you can make use of ü and others with some international layouts, but for laypeople it's rather cumbersome.

Imagine China would suddenly require everyone spelling it as 中国, nobody would even be able pronounce it, let alone write.

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[–] VampirePenguin@midwest.social 141 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Bluesky is a for-profit company that is capitalizing on the Xodus. They may be better for the time being, but the march for more and more profit will end the same as it always does. Enshittification. They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (12 children)

They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.

I think you're overselling the Fediverse here. The Fediverse also absolutely has censorship, it's just by individual instance admins instead of a for-profit company. If large, influential instances shut down or defederate, a lot of content goes with it.

Yeah, federated instances technically cache that data, but those communities are effectively dead, links are broken, etc. Users can jump to other services, sure, but the service isn't the same.

We've seen this here on Lemmy. Beehaw was a cool instance, but they defederated fairly early on. Lemmy.ml was super impactful, but their admins are super aggressive with moderation to the point that many avoid their communities. And so on.

Whether "the Fediverse" is good depends on your instance and the mods and admins of the various communities you are part of. That kind of sucks.

Maybe it sucks less than whatever major social media network you're comparing to, but I hesitate to call it "good," just different.

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[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So. When ever I post my families genocide story as Armenians in The Ottoman empire. There’s always a Turk to call me a liar online. Then they get you banned from the sub because they have people injected into mod teams. Pretty disgusting experience. Also happened with Azerbaijani posters to. Interesting how deep they injected themselves in Reddit.

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[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 157 points 2 days ago (38 children)

Funny as I got downvoted to oblivion for saying Bluesky was not really decentralized.

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[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

Don't replace X with Bluesky! Go to Mastodon and other Federalised platforms. That is the only way to escape corporate-sponsored fascism.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

If Fedi server owners will start getting legal requests from the Turkish government, they will start banning people too. Or will be forced to close their operations in Turkey.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As a mastodon server operator you have my word that I will wipe my ass with any takedown requests from the Turkish government, and encourage any Turkish users to get a fucking VPN.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 5 hours ago

We will see, lol.

[–] Pirata@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It will take way longer for them to shut down all individual servers than it takes them to ask 1 company to shut down all posts.

Not to mention the dissent that arrises from one server being asked to shut down, how many others would suddenly start hosting anti-turkey regime stuff.

Its like piracy: you can't really shut it down. Even if Turkey would make accessing the fediverse illegal, people would still use VPNs.

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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Watching how quickly all these companies crumble, it really is astonishing the Obama and Clinton didn't take on Fox News for all it's bullshit.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

Corpos aren't afraid of the Democrats. They own them.

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