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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28249577

Top Trump official Stephen Miller's recent declaration that anyone who "preaches hate for America" will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump's platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller's is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

What does "hate for america" even mean? Does "I think mcdonalds fries are garbage" count? or "republicans are whiny little maggots"?

[–] thepenismightier@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Skip the first and head right for the second I see.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 1 points 1 hour ago

If the feds show up to collect me for voicing my opinion. There will be no questions asked. You come through that door. Some of you are not going home.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Trump once said that this guy, Kapo Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller, told him that he'd like to see America's population reduced from the current 335 million down to 100 million.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Surely you guys can take out Stephen Miller before he takes out 225 million of you?

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

We don't hate America. We hate you.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

The Talibangelical issues a Fatwah.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

"Worries users" - is the USA an operating system now?

Is AI writing these posts? The statement makes sense in context in the full post, but the headline absolutely does not - leads me to believe yes, AI slop.

[–] all4theTomatoes@lemm.ee 15 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Whats that joke Reagan cracked back in the 80s about Russian Soviets not allowed to criticise their government?

Yea, huh. Wonder what happened to that.

[–] void_turtle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Really hate the milktoast way these articles are written. "critics warning" "ignited alarm online" "backlash has ignited debate" ffs just say the Trump admin announced the end of free speech. That is literally what happened.

Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

FFS WE'VE BEEN THERE THIS ISN'T VEERING THIS IS FOLLOWING A STRAIGHT LINE ALONG THE PATH WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ON FUCK

[–] ngdev@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago

milktoast is a pretty milquetoast breakfast, though i will admit it actually pairs well with a milk steak boiled hard

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't hate America. America is a continent. It would be really silly to hate an entire continent.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 hours ago

Was not expecting the purposefully obtuse European response in this thread.

What are the "users" in this context?

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 51 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

They are going to milk the extrajudicial rendition until there is an actual outbreak of violence to try and stop it.

Then Trump will send those people involved into a gulag, too.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

Agreed the purpose is to cause people to act and then move in to crush them. All the while playing the victim. Of course that play doesn't always work.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 114 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

That goes against the first amendment, which I think makes it anti-american. Can Stephen Miller start by deporting himself?

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

they're no longer following the Constitution, in case anyone has noticed ...

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago

They never were. Unless they added things that helped them or a cohort at a given time. cf: prohibition, its repeal, etc.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

It is never not projection.

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[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

i love the USA and everything the constitution stands for. i don't agree with how this administration is running the government in some respects.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

"What constitution?" - current government

[–] Waldowal@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Straight to El Salvador jail

[–] Mooseford@lemmy.today 3 points 8 hours ago

"Some". Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

[–] MisterCurtis@lemmy.world 35 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Trump isn't America, the government isn't America, fuck them. The people are America.

[–] FelixMortane@lemmy.ca 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Unless the people do something about, Trump and the government are exactly America. If no one stops it and just complies, then it is endorsement by default.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 45 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I love America. I swore to defend it against all enemies. I do not love what it is doing or who the government defines as enemies.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

When will you recognize that the government is behaving as if citizens are the enemy and itself is actually doing the same things enemies do..

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

That's pretty much what they said.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 9 points 16 hours ago

I love who the government defines as enemies. I don't love that the government defines them as enemies.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 43 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck America, Fuck Trump, Fuck these nazi pricks, and congratz, you'll never have to deport me, I won't ever visit your shithole of a country.

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[–] Foni@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago

I wish I could say I'm surprised.

[–] ChristOnACracker@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck Steven Millier the majority of Americans hate the POS fucktard! The majority of Americans hate the way the moronic fat orange slob trump has changed democracy in America and find him repulsive, disgusting and a complete fucking idiot along with his cabal of asshat republicans who can fucking shove christianity, their Bible and their ideology up their privileged white asses! Nothing but POS cowards, white trash who hide behind their walls and use the moron low IQ ICE Agents who probably average an IQ of 2! Can't wait to see America fight back...in time those agents will regret their I'll will!

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

Sir, please step this way. Your flight to El Salvador leaves from gate 88.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 59 points 18 hours ago

All of these MAGAts need to be in jail.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

I hate America. Come at me bro.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

But he's doing it right now??? Ohh he's conflating the current administration with America even though all their values are in complete contradiction to everything this country is supposed to stand for. Got it.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So let's say that SCOTUS rules that this policy infringes on the first amendment. Then they deport another person. Who's to stop doing it?

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Stephen Miller is the one preaching hate for America, the weird little twerp.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

This is the same bogus and weaponizable logic that legitimate criticism of Israel's genocide = 'antisemitism' is. If you want to call legitimate criticism of the illegal and unethical actions of this POTUS administration 'hate for America', the notion that deportations (of US-born people) are going to ramp up shortly just became very real for me

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'm pretty sure Stephen Miller is just undead Goebbels resurrected in a skin suit. Not as smart, but the instincts are intact.

[–] griff@lemmings.world 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Who hates America more by their actions than the GOP?

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

Aye. Fuck the maggots

[–] Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The resistance needs to grow before my country is fucked.... #GrowTheResistance

[–] urquell@lemm.ee 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
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