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[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago

We Lost the House and Senate for 60 Years.

I sure fucking hope so, you piece of shit.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's really happened is we've had our global dominance thrown away. We took the lead because of WW1 and WW2. It's not because we're great. It's not because we manifested our destiny to become the leader of the world. It's because factories in Europe were bombed to smithereens. That's what allowed the U.S to achieve financial dominance. Now we're in the fall.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And the U.S. got all the money to build up their industrial base by the fact that they were they only country able to give out loans to the European nations fighting in the First World War since every european country spent everything they had and then some fighting each other.

World War One represented the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the world. It was bigger than the economic exploitation by the British Empire of Africa, India and Asia combined. In four years, the U.S. basically held all the cards and (I know this is controversial) only ended up getting involved militarily when it seemed possible that the allies would lose and therefore be unable to pay off their loans.

And you know what...all credit to the Americans; they took that new found wealth and built up the strongest, most powerful industrial base the world had ever seen; an industrial base that, without which, the second world war would have been nearly impossible to win (Russian blood, British Strategy, American Industry...isn't that the saying?)

It's what they proceeded to do with that industrial base afterwards that lead us to where we are now.

[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And the Soviets were the main opposition in ww2 so they were also destroyed.

America swooped in at the end, took the credit and used their position of barely having taken any damage to assert global dominance.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

True. But I'm going to give America some credit here. When they came in, they came in hard. Two of the hardest beaches in Normandy with the highest losses of any allied force during the landings. Front line in pretty much every major engagement from the moment they entered. I am anti-american in general, and no...I don't think Germany would have won if they hadn't gotten involved (the soviets bought our victory at the cost of 11,000,000 casualties...)

They committed more troops than any other country except the soviet union and germany itself. I'll criticise a LOT of what the United States has become, but I would never ever in a million years claim that they had "barely taken any damage", and in fact kind of take offence to the statement even though I'm not American.

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[–] rodneylives@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (7 children)

What will probably happen is a one or two term slump. What's different between then and now is the internet and social media, which fills most people's brains with a deluge of noise. In addition to the effects of misinformation daily telling people that the moon is the sun, most algorithms prioritize novelty, and nothing's more novel than the most stupidly wrong-headed take. We constantly hear the opinions of people who should be laughed out of the room! We sit and chuckle, but there's tens of millions of people who have poor media skills who it can actually influence.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago

This depends on what safeguards (if any) are put in place after he's kicked out, and if we're still stuck with two opposing 'teams' that are both purely beholden to the oligarchs.

Germany stayed fascist-resistant for a long, long time. But they were compelled to.

If he actually moves against Canada and/or Mexico and others step in, that could happen again.

This also assumes the outcome of such a move is not in his favor. (which i'd like to think is likely

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That's how long it will take to rebuild US foreign policy, 60 years. I hope Rand is correct, fuck the GOP.

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[–] Sizing2673@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Hopefully! The world would be a far better place. Globally and domestically.

Conservative policies just have their own heads up their asses sucking Trump's rich spoiled cock

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemm.ee 23 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I used to be a swing voter before Trump, after this admin, I will never vote for a Republican again. Especially since most support him.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I will go to my grave before I support a Republican for anything. I wouldn't vote for a Republican for street sweeper.

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[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Guess who is using data illegally gathered from social security to prevent legal voters from voting? If you guessed the king in orange you'd be right.

They have been purging voter rolls all over the country for a long time now. But their methods have vastly improved recently. In the swing states last year they purged 3.5 million voters. In the midterms next year they want to challenge the eligibility of everyone.

Only voters with a passport or original birth certificate would be allowed to vote.

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[–] ozoned@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

First time ever that I hope Rand Paul is correct. Don't threaten me with a good time Rand Paul!

[–] ptee@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I hope this leads into demolishing republican party and moving on from the clearly faulty two party nonsense of a system. You can't keep functioning if you're on the verge of becoming authoritarian regime with oligarchs.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago

Oh no!

.... Anyway.

[–] Empricorn 12 points 6 days ago

"Fuck the people this will harm, what about my political party!?

[–] KingOogaBooga@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

So they get power and do a bunch of shitty things. Then no one wants them in power anymore. Seems the country was doing quite well without them at the helm. Now....not so much.

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[–] BenjiRenji@feddit.org 16 points 6 days ago

Really? I don't think your idiot voters will remember for longer than 5 years. And with an opposition like the Dems it'll be easy for you to get back into power. Don't overestimate the Americans. We all made that mistake once.

[–] vhalragnarok@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Good. Fucking good. Also fuck with Social Security while you are at it and secure your fucking grave permanently.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago

I don't think they need to worry, the dems like losing a lot more.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It would be too soon, if we got rid of them and these Corpo Dems. We could remove citizens United and few other worthless pieces of legislation. That and stop this fucking election tampering in the name "stopping fraud" fucking clowns making voting a single day during the work week and these Red hatted goons cheer for this shit like the mouth breathing inbred ghouls they are because they hate everyone else is beyond annoying.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Citizens United wasn't legislation, it was a Supreme Court decision. The only way to fix it following the current rules is to ask the court again or to change the Constitution. Of course, if you are willing to just ignore laws then you have many options (see current Presidential administration for examples).

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

No. Congress absolutely has the authority to enact legislation that overturns a court decision, even the Supreme Court.

However, the disgusting piles of human shaped filth currently making up the Supreme Court would find some illogical excuse for why said law is unconstitutional. But only once one of there lackeys manages to appeal the issue all the way up the chain. But this process IS utterly corrupt and subverts the Constitution...not like they care. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But courts are given authority only to interpret existing legislation; their decisions do not restrict the legislature's authority to enact new laws. Thus the convoluted shit they come up with to abuse the appeals process, as mentioned.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Hawaii was recently successful in enacting state laws to limit campaign contributions. I'd hope that other states willing to tackle the fight could do the same. The biggest chance would be if it could be done in battleground states.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 4 days ago

I fail to see how that is a bad thing.

[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Don't threaten us with a good time...

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

So things aren't necessarily all bad.

[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

From your mouth to Satan’s ears!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago
[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Good. You nazi fucks deserve all the pain that comes to you.

[–] groolthedemon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I hope we get rid of all these bastards once and for all. Their entire party and platform is and always has been a giant fucking sham that preys on the gullible.

[–] plantmoretrees@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

So, there is a silver lining?!

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Notice how he worries about HIS job... he couldn't care less about the harm to the country or the people

[–] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

They might have to eschew morals and start gaslighting the populace to regain influence.

Wait...

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These MAGA will just move to their Republican overlords after Trump has died. The real hope would be a split GOP. MAGA/GOP and Dems.

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[–] samuelazers@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The optimist angle would be that Trump is secretely a Democrat agent, and that by crashing the stock market he just thinks it's over-valued and wants to return to 2018~ levels.

[–] ZEDtheRED@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Ah what a nice fantasy to cogitate on for a few moments

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago
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