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Schumer breaks news to Booker on Senate floor that Republicans are planning to sidestep parliamentarian on current policy.

“They don’t care anymore about norms, about rules, and even about going nuclear,” he says

Booker says it’s “further breaking of the Senate”

“Next time around, there’s no going back now”

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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 85 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

During the Bush admin, conservatives LITERALLY FIRED the Parliamentarian

In 2001, he determined that Senate rules allow only one budget bill per year related to revenue to be immune from filibuster, a process known as reconciliation...Later that year, Dove ruled to remove a Republican provision to allocate over $5 billion in the 2002 budget for natural disasters. Following Republican anger about these rulings, he was dismissed by Republican Majority Leader Trent Lott

This fake ass advisor position serves at the discretion of the Senate Majority leader and always has

These FUCKING LOSERS don't even know their own rules or they presume we cannot remember more than a couple terms back

Or this is some pathetic attempt at face saving ("we didn't fire the Parliamentarian when we were in charge because noooorms sweaty")

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago

They would have fired the parliamentarian if she had blocked them from things they wanted to do, like increase police funding or weapons to Israel

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago

"If we fired the parliamentarian, our jobs report would be negative."

[–] regul@hexbear.net 87 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lmao. Remember when they couldn't raise the minimum wage because the Parliamentarian said so?

[–] Xenomorph@hexbear.net 58 points 1 day ago

We really wanted to, honest! But the got danged parliamentarianarino said "no" and we can't 😥Donation money please! the-democrat

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

a party of clowns

"They found a way around the parliamentarian. They found a way around the rules of the Senate. They found a way around the ideals of reconciliation," Booker said of congressional Republicans. "They are deciding that the way we're gonna do this is break the Senate and make up our own rules. This is how they're gonna get a bill through that gives trillions [of] dollars of tax cuts to the wealthiest in our country who are doing very well."

While refusing to "hate on" wealthy Americans, Booker also had a message for them: "You don't need tax cuts, especially not that are gonna be given to you on the backs of the poor, on the backs of our elders, on the backs of our children, on the backs of expectant mothers, on the backs of my mom's, your mom's Social Security."

'They found a way around the parliamentarian. They found a way around the rules of the Senate. They found a way around the ideals of reconciliation' should be a site tagline

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 78 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My favorite part of this is that whenever anyone brought up the idea of “just ignore the parliamentarian” when Dems were in control, the response from the establishment was always, “we can’t do that, it would just give Republicans license to do the same.” And then the Republicans go ahead and do it anyways.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's infuriating how Democrats always use this excuse. If Republicans think they can get away with murdering or imprisoning every Democrat, they will murder and imprison every Democrat. This has been obvious for decades Republicans don't care about norms or decorum. They care about wielding power.

Obama did this shit with the ACA. Clinton got himself impeached while Newt was pulling the same sexual misconduct. Carter let Nixon undermine the Vietnam treaty. The list goes on and on and we haven't even talked about state or city-level shenanigans.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

At least LBJ was spying on the republicans first

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 day ago

It's almost like it's obvious to anyone that the Republicans would do it just like they changed the rules for supreme court rules. And any other rule that gets in their way.

But it's not like the dems actually want to make progress so makes sense they'd ignore those facts

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 17 points 1 day ago

Bet that if the Supreme Court rules something against Trump wishes he put 5 new judges there.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They found a way around the rules of the Senate.

As far as the constitution is concerned, the only rule in the Senate is that the Senate makes the rules. If you hold a majority and the "rules" prevent you from doing something, you can literally just change the rules.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fact that many sitting democrats seem to not understand this is infuriating. I know they’re paid not to understand it, but I do think some of them genuinely do not understand that.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 day ago

We seem to have reached some stage of political development where most elected officials are not Machiavellian plotters, but rather, they're true believers. We see the same thing happening with Republicans as they cut government institutions that US power and market stability relies on, simply because they're deep state and woke.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

refusing to "hate on" wealthy Americans

weak and dumb

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

I had assumed the republicans would shitcan the parliamentarian. But this is so much better. It's so much funnier!

"You don't need tax cuts..."

But they're gonna get astronomical tax cuts anyway!

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

folks how do I automate shocked-pikachu posting on every news post im getting tired of typing :pika and clicking on the image every single time 😭

[–] CeliacMcCarthy@hexbear.net 60 points 1 day ago

don't be sad that using the parliamentarian as an excuse to not raise the minimum wage is over, be happy that it happened

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You can do that?????

Theoretically, the Senate could overrule MacDonough or even fire her, though she is a respected nonpartisan figure who has worked under both Republican and Democratic majorities dating back to 2012. Ultimately, the same real-world arbiters of deficits and debt that may disregard “current policy” scoring would look very dimly on an open GOP revolt against the budget rules and their referee.

So, yes, MacDonough’s decision is likely to be fateful. At stake is nothing less than Donald Trump’s whole legislative agenda.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/senate-parliamentarian-could-derail-trumps-entire-agenda.html 9 hours ago

how do these people wake up everyday and keep on thinking 'yep I certainly have the intelligence and gumption to be speaking truth to power journalist'? lmao

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also - the GOP already fired the parliamentarian at least once. They did so during the Dubya administration.

MacDonough’s decision is likely to be fateful.

There's a much higher likelihood that Santa Claus and his flying reindeers are real.

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Holy mother of fuck. If the writer was a recent college grad nepobaby - I might overlook some of the stupidity. I, myself, was an idiot in my 20s. But the writer dipshit has been writing for pollitics for at least a decade.

By Ed Kilgore, political columnist for Intelligencer since 2015

I googled him. He's gotta be at least ~60. Good grief.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I was a political columnist and I was structurally held back from pointing out the obvious reality of how a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie worked for decades, I too would end up thinking the Parliamentarian mattered.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can do that?????

They've done it before

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

gotcha, carry on rat-salute-2

[–] Person@hexbear.net 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

naahhh, this is just media hyperbole. Not even the republicans would ignore the parliamentarian, that's just beyond the pale.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We're crossing the Rubicon

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

Have we bitten off more than we can chew?

[–] puckylinky@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

But at what cost?

[–] Terrarium@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

"Next time around, there's no going back now"

Republicans have repeatedly overruled or fired the parliamentarian for years and years. Democrats later tried to pretend they were an absolute roadblock for campaign promises.

They will "go back" immediately.

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Parliamentarian, that's that show on Disney+ with the helmet guy right?

[–] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

No that's the guy in The Matrix sequels

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

NOT THE SENATE PASTAFARIAN!

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago
[–] Xenomorph@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I cannot believe the republicans just do whatever the fuck they want and give the finger to stuffy rules lawyers who try and say no, I cannot!

[–] miz@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago
[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 day ago

An april fools joke would be the republicans actually following the "rule of law" and the dems being the ones ignoring it.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

fuck the parliamentarian coming straight from the underground

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What? The thing we told them would happen has happened?!

No one could have seen this coming. 😲

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

There's a ton of Strom Thurmond posting on Bluesky right now. I know it's hardly breaking news but I'll never get over how much the libs <3 purely performative bullshit. My god.

Breaking Thurmond's record while talking about the Civil Rights leaders being called home is an incredible moment in America.

This is one for the history books.

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool. So now that republicans (as always) set a precedent to get what they want. You dems have no excuses right?

Come to think of it, how come democrats never gerrymander? How about the restrict voting in rural white communities just for a start? At least then they’d benefit from job security.

[–] Terrarium@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Republicans already set this precedent decades ago. Democrats retconned the power of the parliamentarian.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

YOU CAN DO THAT??? shocked-pikachu

[–] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago
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[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

What do you mean they dont care about norms?? maybe-later-honey biden-horror

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