chapotraphouse

There's a distinct lack of rants, so I'll toss my annoyance out there.

There were days where covid in the US was killing a 9/11 amount of people every day and so many of the chuds who act like 9/11 was the worst thing ever did not give a fuck. And it pisses me off so bad. It's the perfect "one death is a tragedy, a million a statistic" trap so many people fall into and that always pisses me off. One person dies because of weed - nation wide story. Tens of thousands die from alcohol - who gives a damn.

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Jeremiah Wright, September 16th, 2001:

I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday, did anybody else see him or hear him? He was on Fox News, this is a white man, and he was upsetting the Fox News commentators to no end. He pointed out... that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Mohammed was in fact true, America's chickens…are coming home to roost.

We took this country by terror, away from the Sioux, the Apache, the Arowak, the Comanche, the Arapahoe, the Navajo. Terrorism.

We took Africans from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenagers and toddlers, pregnant mothers, and hardworking fathers.

We bombed Qaddafi's home and killed his child.

We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living.

We bombed a plant in Sudan to payback for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hardworking people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they would never get back home.

We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children from school, civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and Black South Africans and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.

Entire interview and sermon clip is worth watching, but this bit starts around 3:10

No innocent civilians in the planes or towers deserved to die in 9/11 obviously (and I hope everyone agrees here), but what I despise about the event is how the American civil religion lionised it and reacted afterwards. The attack was carried out by a US asset gone rouge and a direct result of US meddling and old school imperial conquest in the Middle East, which included killing many innocent civilians there themselves. The 9/11 attacks were not some unforeseen unprovoked event.

Then there's the response. It's quite clear that the main issue with 9/11 to American leadership was not the number of lives lost, but the fact that it was a successful attack on Americas biggest symbols symbols of global financial and military domination. It was about the message that sent. A successful attack from the "jungle" on the "garden", as old school racist imperialists would say. And how did America respond to that? By invading two countries that had nothing to do with the event, while becoming even closer allies with the country that the majority of 9/11 hijackers were from. Hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq over a lie about WMDs. Afghanistan pillaged for two decades before returning to the exact same position, Taliban rule. Osama was in Afghanistan by the time the US showed up? Yes, and I'm going to be a billionaire tomorrow. More instability, more US funded terrorist groups. The response was just to go and loot and pillage the Middle East 100 times harder with false righteous fury. Like bombing an entire neighborhood because you got mugged by one of its residents.

And that really showed the true character of the US as a country. Just how much bloodlust they had after 9/11. They just wanted to go out and kill a nation, any nation from the region would've sufficed. The were calls on national radio and TV programs for glassing and nuking the entire region. Around 75% of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq at the time. An invasion clearly based on lies. But they didn't care, they just wanted revenge. To kill someone, anyone. If you compare how the US reacted here, to how other countries reacted in the face of hardship, attacks and near civil war (see South Africa during the end of apartheid) it's clear that the character of the US is rotten deep down.

guy who gets angry at "Bush did 9/11" memes because he views Osama bin Laden as a hero and wants him to get the credit he deserves

I believe this screenshot is from genzedong or chapo. I forget.

This is the first 911 since the reddit refugees oh geez this will get messy

American libs when experiencing a fraction of the brutality they subjected others to:

If we were still federated with the libs, this thread would be wild

lmao, I hadn't considered what impact 9/11 was going to have on federation until just now

If lemm.ee doesn't finally defederate from us over this thread, then I don't think they ever will.

The unchecked, uncurtailed, ceaseless and boundless of expansion of the surveillance state due to 9/11 doesn’t get talked about enough. I don’t have a joke here, I am just saying it sucks so much man.

9/11 was proof that America is one of the most self-absorbed, narcissistic societies to ever exist. They suffer what they inflict upon others in an afternoon of ignorance or infantile righteous judgement, and they start foaming at the mouth to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war, gloating over how they will 'send them back to the stone age'. It's sometimes difficult to put into words how repulsive Americans can be.

Does that mean that everyone who died on 9/11 had it comin? No. But the event was beyond illuminating of how America is an imperialist beast with a Narcissus complex.

This was a great meme back in 2011, kids.

Q: What's the difference between 9/11 and a cow?

A: You can't milk a cow for 22 years.

Wonder if they’ve already lowered the Guantanamo Bay McDonald’s flag to half mast

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Let’s pay our respects to the victims of September 11th, 1973, when the US probably helped a coup in Chile

What's your favorite way your parents destroyed the towers? My household had a minor affair, we had little candles in the shape of the WTC on the dining room table. We would thank George Bush for the Patriot Act and then light the candles. We had to be good, because George Bush was always watching us with the Patriot Act, but if we were good, we'd get little pilot's wings pins.

The rich kids in my neighborhood had more elaborate plans, I heard they had full on model WTC towers. If they were good, there would be RC planes under the towers on 9/11 morning. They were always showing me the cool videos when they destroyed the towers.

I think some of most interesting things around 9/11 are the extremely stupid side stories. Consider real estate developer Larry Silverstein who argued that the WTC attacks were two separate attacks, and therefore he was entitled to two payouts on his insurance claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein#Insurance_dispute

It's mundane shit like this that really gives a unique glimpse into the depravity of capitalism. The uninteresting part of this is the casually anti-Semitic implication that the insurance policy was taken because a Jewish man knew what was going to happen. That's part is just stupid antisemitism and I do think it's worth making that point clear.