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Discord was already succumbing to enshitification. Now with their intention to be owned by Wall Street, that trajectory will certainly accelerate at warp speed once the change of hands happens.

Anyone already get ahead of this and find a solid alternative?

Right now I'm on the fence between Element for Matrix, and Revolt. Both seem to have their pros and cons and I can't find a clear "winner".

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[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

mumble is great for VOIP.

Matrix seems interesting, but i think it might be a little bit too heavy handed, im not personally a fan of web tech, though there are other things like xmpp as well.

revolt is meh, apparently their dev team is hostile to self hosting, so there's that. There's also spacebar, which is a reverse engineered implementation of the discord API, could be interesting.

[–] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Can you elaborate on what you mean by web tech? I don't know much about how matrix works

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Way too few mentions of Jitsi.

I use it with friends, it has good server config, and I'm pushing it on businesses.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Explain more of this Jitsi, sounds interesting for my business

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

It's voice and video calling with chat and screensharing. I intend to use it for a language school. It's extendable, for instance you can also self-host a whiteboard, where everyone can draw. You can see the drawing in real time, which is good for asian languages, where direction of the stroke is important.

Free, open-source, packaged in Debian, runs without issues, used it with friends for multi-hour voice chats during gaming nights.

On the server you can configure things like FPS for screenshare. I have yet to adjust that and try streaming video/game through it.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Time to dust off my old Mumble server!

[–] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I was reading this thread and started looking for that app again.

[–] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Matrix is nice, and you can have jitsi for calls integrated. It seems to be pretty popular; Lemmy has a field for matrix @ in user profiles. Never heard of revolt before.

[–] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I use Jitsi for a non-profit, and I like the mute someone else function, but oh wow the noise cancellation needs improvement. So many voice comm apps have disappeared (there used to be one our group used all the time, then the devs dropped it (the client app) and just became on API or something).

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I've also been comparing Element and Revolt. Both seem really solid, both are open source and both are self-hostable. Hard to find any downsides there.

There's a discord server that me and a bunch of friends use as our main hangout. They've raised the prospect of bailing before things enshittify, and of course I've been tasked with pitching a replacement. For my money, Revolt is the way I'm going to go, specifically because it's basically a one for one clone of Discord. The people I'm pitching this to are a mix of technical and non-technical, so I think something that looks and feels like what they're used to will be the easiest transition.

It also feels like Element is geared pretty heavily towards being a replacement for Slack / Teams rather than a replacement for Discord. Their pitch seems a lot more focused on the enterprise market. Revolt seems more focused on gaming, casual hangout, that sort of thing.

I like Element a lot, but for me it doesn't feel like the right solution to this specific problem. But if I was pitching something to my work as a Teams replacement, Element is definitely the way I'd go.

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 12 points 5 hours ago

Man I wish my online friends were that easy to switch.

As soon as I mention Lemmy "what's wrong with reddit". As soon as I mention element "but everyone uses whatsapp/discord".

It suck that 90% of the people are stuck in their old ways and refuse to try anything new.

Hell I almost got banned for even mentioning lemmy once.

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Silly question perhaps, but I haven't tripped across it on the site for Revolt -- is there a relatively straight forward server version for self-hosting, or is it just that the source is on github and you can compile it in theory if you feel like goin through that process... ?

[–] BendingHawk@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

The most straight forward I see appears to be Docker hosting

https://github.com/revoltchat/self-hosted

https://developers.revolt.chat/faq.html#admonition-what-can-i-do-with-revolt-and-how-do-i-self-host

If you're looking to self host but are uncomfortable with Docker I recommend checking out YunoHost as an option for something a bit simpler, they also support Revolt

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

Thanks, appreciated.

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 7 points 9 hours ago

Just remember your friend, https://discorch.org/

[–] shym3q@programming.dev 12 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I've started my self-hosting journey having Matrix in mind - especially the Matrix bridges to cut off the need to use social media clients like Discord.

Today, I'm slowly convicting my friends to join my instance. So far, that's just one of the closest ones (still win for me).

I hope one day decentralization in social media would take off!

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago

I JUST managed to get my closest ring outside my family to join Signal.

We have a total of 7 people now.

I'd light up a server and host matrix/frendica/lemmy/mastodon/headscale in an instant if I thought I could get those 7 to join.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

if discord is going public they don't need my turbo sub anymore

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Cancelled mine when they redesigned the mobile app anyway. I don't want a different interface on mobile vs desktop. I want a unified experience, which was their original purpose.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 17 points 13 hours ago

Matrix is the way. It's federated and you can have your own server.

[–] Wolfizen@pawb.social 22 points 16 hours ago
[–] xelar@lemmy.ml 19 points 16 hours ago
[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 8 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Teamspeak is alright, in fact we use it along with discord for inter-channel Comms. But discord does a lot of stuff that ts doesn't touch

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

That's a throwback. Let's take it one step further and just get back on Ventrilo and play some DOTA. (For the younger folks who don't get the reference: https://youtu.be/aTJncWndUB8 )

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I still have my copy. I cannot believe that song is like, 18 years old now. It was such a staple of my college experience.

[–] waz@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I am certainly not one of the younger folks and had never seen that before. That is awesome, thank you for sharing.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

Oh man, Basshunter was huge in the chronically-online gamer space in the 2000s. His other songs are pretty good too.

To put it in perspective, the fact that they're gaming on laptops and LCD monitors was an enviable flex when his songs released.

[–] EchoCranium@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago

Used to use Vent playing Eve Online 19 years ago. Worked great back then. Apparently it's still around, but still no Linux support after all these years.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 9 points 16 hours ago

Me and my brother are using teamspeak to this day.

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