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What era in time do these people think R's are trying to conserve to, after or before civil rights?
“It doesn’t matter until it affects me” - republicans who thought “winning” would just hurt those they disagreed with.
Notice how the author justifies himself. He's pro-life, 2nd, ect...
This screams "I'm one of the good ones", and implies that he has internalized homophobia. Anyway, it's some next level "pick me" shit.
"[...] this will only push me and other people like me out."
I mean.... Yeah.... That IS kind of their whole point!?
Talking to Republican acquaintances who have lost their jobs to musk, they all say similar ideas. "I'm team Republican, so I voted R. Couldn't let the Ds win. They are the like our division rivals". Its literally a game to them, and election day is their Superbowl.
“So why’re you so mad? Y’all won! Think of it this way: you now have all day, everyday to celebrate!”
Most hilarious example of this is Alex Jones, who now has everything he screamed for for 30+ years and now doesnt know what to do with his show. He is now forced to support every idea that he preached was reprehensible all that time.
the greatest con ever played on the public was convincing tens of millions of Americans that their civil rights were a game to them. Normalizing an attitude of “we might loose, but they won’t win either”.
Us vs Them isn’t red vs blue, it’s the rich donors vs their productive workers. The vast majority of Republicans and Democrats are actually on the same “side.”
Developing class consciousness is one of the few ways out of this mess.
i agree wholeheartedly. there ain’t no warfare but class warfare. look at iraq, do you really think we would have gone in if they were just another dirt poor country? naw.
I feel little pity for anyone who has so little knowledge of history that they don’t know the Republican Party has run on anti-out groups since before I was born.
Education is really lacking. LGBT+ Republicans are some of the stupidest, most selfish, and downright deplorable people in conservative circles. They post these goofy ass posts like this as if they should be immune from the issues everyone else in our community is fighting to protect. "New" Conservative movement my ass that would defeat the point of conservatives.
Acting like these people aren't trying to destroy the efforts of progressives from the last 50+ years because that is the "Great" in MAGA would be hilarious if it wasn't pathetic. I get that these people are emotional and political masochists but they need to take it home.
"Dear Republicans. When I voted to have people's rights stripped away and their lives ruined, I didn't think it included me!"
Eat shit, asshole.
and should gulp it down with a warm jug of piss for good measure.
I think Jordan Ramsey needs some more critical thinking skills and a quick look at what the republican agenda always was, and will continue to be (under Project 2025) before he decides that he will "never be a Democrat"
I feel like someone needs to tell Justice Thomas that he can just divorce his wife before he reverses Loving v. Virginia to get rid of her.
Typical conservative reasoning: “I don’t mind banning abortion, because I personally will never be affected”
...until you are affected...
Absolute dumbass. Even now he cannot face reality.
A gay republican; or, as they're more commonly known as in the LGBT community, a "bitch-ass traitor".
Just one man's opinion, but I'd rather have the picture and discussion here than a link to reddit.
What an idiot...
Quite likely a troll account.
Edit: meaning the source of the screenshot, not who I was replying to.
Did the picture not show up for you here? I'm using old.lemmy.world so i can see it on my end
I don't know why octopus posted that or how it has the most votes, because you didn't post a reddit link. I am using the Voyager app and I can see the image.
I had to click through to reddit though. (And FWIW it did not link to old.reddit)
Not giving you a hard time though, just grumpy about reddit because reddit. :D
In any case it looks like you edited it and it loads fine now... 🙂
I know very little about gay rights history in the US but in a quick search I learned that the supreme court case that made same sex marriage legal was put forth by a Democrat.
Another thing is that I'm under the impression that the Replublican party is very much a Religeous party that does not reconize anything outside Men-Women relations. I'm always confused to hear about gay Republicans.
The issues with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans seem similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews, being gay isn't a character trait, it's a sexuality and its stands to reason that lots (although a minority) of gay people are generally conservative when it comes to every other issue than gay rights. And they deceive themselves into the idea that they can be "one of the good ones" and either that the party has already, or that they will move the party towards an accepting attitude.
LCR president Greg Angelo described the "preservation of LGBT rights and support for the LGBT community" as hallmarks of Donald Trump's 2016 Presidential campaign, and asserted that support would continue during his presidency.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you can't be half as confused as they must be... 🤣😂 I mean, maybe I'm misremembering things here, but I feel like the GOP-at-large just recently (like within the last decade?) stopped publicly referring to homosexuality/homosexuals as 'an abomination,' which even then kinda felt like a begrudgingly made concession of necessity at best... No?
I'm not gonna lie, I'm more than a little shocked at this point everytime Trump mentions someone being "BL-A-ack." I keep waiting for him to shift into full Dementia Don mode and just drop some hard Rs
They almost immediately switched to attacking trans people. They must be able to focus on some external group as being The Enemy, but they took a sudden loss on gay rights and they saw how deeply unpopular their position really was. Immediate switch to talking about bathroom bans and women's sports. They even peeled off a section of the gay/lesbian community over this.
They threw the gays and lesbians into mental institutions until around 1970.
"one day I'll be that boot!"
Back to the mouth-breathing times....
This isn’t real, right? Because if it is I’d like to know the piece and origin
Thanks!
This is what you get when you have such a polarised electoral system. People treat the parties like sport teams and support them no matter what. So they vote against their own interests because they believe they should never vote for the other side.
1/3 of people dont even vote in the US because there is no real choice.
Its amazing how often you see people aggressively defending the democrats purely on the basis that they're not the republicans. Even criticising the dems is framed as being pro Republican which is crazy. Both parties are shit, both have sewn up the US electoral system between them and keep everyone else out at all levels.
And during elections that opinion gets shut down and people become complicit with the system. "Voting for a 3rd party is a wasted vote" etc.
The idea that voters should be registered as democrat PR Republican is also crazy - it's like supporting a party is part of someone identity which is weird.
The only way out is wholesale reform of the system and I don't see either party offering that. A 3rd party could try and build from the bottom up and dismantle the two parties powerbase but it doesn't seem to be happening.
So maybe it'll be revolution when a party pushes people too far? Though Americans seem willing to tolerate an awful lot of shit without doing anything at all.
A 3rd party could try and build from the bottom up and dismantle the two parties powerbase but it doesn’t seem to be happening.
Not really. The FPTP system makes that incredibly difficult. You can't get votes without taking some amount away from the closest party.
So existing parties are encouraged to shut down and absorb new parties. And new parties will struggle to get a majority of the old party, let alone a majority of the entire election.
We need a system that doesn't have these nonstarter problems, and that's star + approval voting.
There are several countries that have FPTP voting, but they're not as entrenched at everywhere into two parties the way the US is. The UK, for example, has several regions where one of the two major parties is mostly fighting against a regional party, and the other major party has little to no voting base there.
Not only that, but several southern states have used instant runoff voting since the end of Reconstruction (or not long after). If you look at the makeup of their legislatures over the past 100+ years, you'll see that they are just as filled with Democrats and Republicans as everywhere else.
Point is, FPTP is not the only thing at play.
There are several countries that have FPTP voting, but they’re not as entrenched at everywhere into two parties the way the US is.
Sure, that's because there are other factors at play. But FPTP is one of the biggest factors, and in other countries with FPTP it is always the case where there are two dominant parties. Your own example, the UK, has that problem with the conservative & labour parties being the biggest. They always dominate the seats in parliament.
regional party, and the other major party has little to no voting base there.
Sure, but a part of why FPTP is so bad is because it gets worse the bigger the election. A small regional election may only have two candidates to begin with, which means any system of voting is esentially equal.
National elections are almost guaranteed to have at least 3 candidates running for a seat, often 4 or 5 if its a seat like the presidency. And that's where you see third parties suffering most.
The fewer the seats there are, and the more national the election is, the worse FPTP gets.
you look at the makeup of their legislatures over the past 100+ years, you’ll see that they are just as filled with Democrats and Republicans as everywhere else.
That's because the two parties are so entrenched everywhere else. It's in their interest to dominate and push out 3rd parties in those elections as well.
Point is, FPTP is not the only thing at play.
Agreed, though it is clearly one of the biggest factors in 3rd parties failing. We need reprentational government, and this ain't it.
1/3 of people dont even vote in the US because there is no real choice.
If you're not conviced by the last . . . eight weeks . . . that that's absolutely not true, I don't know what to tell you. If you're under 24 then that's because the adulting hasn't kicked in full-time, but other than that, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Exactly. People who genuinely say there is no difference are either so privileged that they genuinely feel no difference, or are too young to experience the differences.
This being said I suspect that a good amount of people who say there is no difference are accelerationist bad actors who just have no empathy.
this will only push me and other people like me out!
That's the whole point.
Useful idiot is close to figuring out they're a useful idiot.
"We" lol
It basically could have been written by an Aaron Sorkin character.
Yeah that's what I'm referencing. It's one of his favorite character archetypes. I think he used it in three different shows.
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