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Summary

Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 276 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an American, I agree 100%. Canada needs to kick our ass. We deserve it.

[–] falk1856@midwest.social 64 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I agree with the sentiment but those states are all pretty blue. Trump might just let it happen to widen the divide and somehow claim that it's punishment for not bending the knee.

[–] Cruxifux 118 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Im gonna tell you right now, as a Canadian, we do not care what colour your states are.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

But also - we invite secession!

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[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given that Canadians don't typically vote in American elections, I don't see how that has anything to do with us or should affect our decision making.

The USA is tariffing us, not just the red states.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the us is bad at thinking everyone is inside their crazy system. It does not matter to us if you state "don't blame me I voted for Kodos", at the end of the day you are all citizens of a belligerent nation. Your government is representing you all on the world stage, if you don't like it do something about it.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (12 children)

That's some weird logic. Trump enacts tariffs on Canada,who retaliates in kind, so you're worried about blue votes. Trump may claim that after the fact, but he's definitely not playing chess that many moves ahead.

The dude can barely plan a double jump with hopscotch, much less checkers.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe you guys should just kick out the traitors that very obviously work for a foreign government.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 180 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

Good for them, maybe our economy will collapse too, and an angry mob will storm the white house and kick Trump out. He can emergency evacuate to Russia, and we can find an administration that isn't insane.

Heyy.. a guy can dream.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

sort of the best case scenario

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Im still flabbergasted that so many people are just shrugging at what Trump is doing and saying, well, if only Kamala or the DNC did this or that instead. Maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

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[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Cept that is what the rich want. Shit to fall apart. Cuz then they get to buy shit up for cheap and consolidate even more wealth.

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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'd prefer we do more than kick Trump out. Like...guillotine them all.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 125 points 1 week ago (6 children)

(Copy-pasting from another thread)

I like Cory Doctorow’s plan.

The reason Canada got tariff-free access to sell to the US in the first place? Canada agreed to enforce penalties for tampering with digital locks, following the premise of the Digital Milennium Copyright Act.

If the US is going back on the deal, then Canada should too. Make it legal to jailbreak all US tech.

Doctorow advocating for this plan:

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Do it unilaterally without discussing with US.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 126 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Or even better: Discuss it with Ukraine, US gets no say in the deal. And if drumpf disagrees, the reply will be "you don't want electricity."

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

I actually had a good laugh at this... Then I had to login to my second account to up vote this twice.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 89 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They need to do this and make it absolutely clear that it is 100% Trump's fault. They cannot be allowed to make the claim that canada did it unprovoked or for the lulz.

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Trudeau got in front of the cameras today and spelled this out. Our government chose to take this action, and Canada is having an entirely reasonable response. Once the tarrifs end, we can go back to where we were, but in the meantime, Americans need to learn how much they rely on Canadian trade and need to understand that this is entirely our government's fault.

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[–] null@slrpnk.net 76 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What Canada needs to start doing is violating US copyright and stealing their IP. Sell jailbreaks for American hardware.

That was part of the free-trade deal, so why would Canada keep up that side of the bargain?

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

This!! This should have been the very first thing! Retaliatory tariffs hurt the consumers, companies and so the economy overall. Reversing the insane IP laws that prevent people from modifying, repairing, upgrading their American products would open business opportunities and lower costs for Canadians.

The main issue is the benefit will be seen on medium term, not days/weeks, and if it is under threat to be reversed again as soon as Trump backs down on his tariffs, not many will take the risk to invest in the maintenance and repair sector.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Do it Canada. The dumber half of our country needs to learn the hard way. And, unfortunately, the smarter half has to go along for the ride.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Don't get too excited. Ford loves to talk tough but he's a fucking pussy.

We'll see what actually happens. No one here is holding their breath.

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey pussies can take a pounding.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago

R.I.P. Betty White

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 57 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.... America needs to learn, I say this as an American.

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[–] ALilOff@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (17 children)

On the slim bright side maybe just maybe this might make the US think of renewable energy, it’s why China invests so much into it to prevent relying on countries for oil.

Ehh who am I kidding, that’s not going to happen at all.

[–] Thorry84 38 points 1 week ago (5 children)

More likely they'll reopen coal plants

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

The children, they yearn for the mines

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Glad that Canadians are standing up for themselves.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 46 points 1 week ago (22 children)

USian here, don't think twice, fucking do it.

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[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Let the southern bastards freeze in the dark...not permanently, just a brief period, followed by an export tax. Cut power once in March, then again throughout the NBA playoffs in April.

At this point we should do this whether or not Trump reverses course. Make it clear there is nothing he can do to avoid it.

I'm sick of this market fuckery back and forth. I'm convinced he's trying to depress the Canadian dollar and the value of Canadian companies and industries, so that oligarchs in the US can buy them up. It's a hostile corporate takeover of our country. Fuck him, we need to go hard - permanent tariffs as long as Trump is in office...and we need legislation to ensure 51% Canadian ownership of strategic resources, as well as no American investment right now. If necessary, we need to nationalize strategic resources and industries.

What we don't need is a fucking tax break for the rich. We're on a war footing right now and our leaders need to accept this. The people have largely accepted it.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think he actually cares about Canada specifically. The point is to alienate the US from its allies and reduce any kind of powerful diplomatic mediators or military deterrents so Russia and similar traditionally colonial powers can just start seizing whatever territory they want.

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[–] canajac@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don't announce it, just do it and observe the panic...and then the begging for it to come back but with a 25% hike in prices.

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[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Why is the fairness meter of the article "unfair left leaning", when it just reports on something someone said?

I don't see any opinion piece there, but pretty much just direct quoting

How can this be even left or right leaning? Oo

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In the US, reporting on simple facts makes you “radical left” while obvious propaganda makes you “right leaning”.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (8 children)

We Americans have a serious problem labeling anything we disagree with as "those other guys". I might even say it's our main problem. We wouldn't be where we're at today without the divisiveness and team mentality.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Whole world needs to put 300 percent tarrifs on the US until they realise they are 5 percent of the world and aren't in a position to bully others.

China's going to eat their lunch if they keep things as they are.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As an American, fucking do it, and make sure DC and Red states feel the most pain. And don't have some qwar ass back door conversation/deal to end the tariffs. Refuse to end them until he goes on live television and reads the following

"To all my fellow Americans, the best Americans from the best America, in hind sight, as it concerns tariffs with our closest geographical allies, I was wrong. The decision I made was stupid, and it was made by an idiot, me. Unfortunately I don't have the intellectual or business aptitude to actually determine what a good decision would be, as opposed to a bad decision. In fact, I am as stupid as the idiots who voted for me. This was the idea that I thought I would be fantastic and I was completely wrong and it's the only idea I had. I apologize to Canada and Mexico, both their leaders and citizens"

It would crush him to make a sincere public apology and backtrack. And he'll still get lynched before the end of year. Because he fucking deserves it.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Do it, but sadly it will affect the Blue States.

[–] joelthelion@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump threatened military action in return, should Canada go forward with it. I mean, it sounds crazy to write it, but is it really too crazy for Trump?

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