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Speaker of the House Mike Johnson is already distancing himself. The wheels of government are going to shut Trump down. He doesn’t have that much power.
...they said, hopefully.
Yes — hopefully
One thing that concerns me that not many people have talked about is what's going to happen to the US dollar as the world's reserve currency? More and more countries want nothing to do with us and while the US dollar has a huge edge over any other currency, the US becoming a pariah is probably going to impact that.
I've wondered about this too.
The USA government has enormous debt, which grows every year due to an enormous deficit. But historically people have been relatively comfortable with just letting that continue to grow, because it is balanced by economic growth and stability (roughly speaking).
But now that the government is somewhat unstable... bad things might happen to the currency. The debt will continue to rise, but the productivity and stability that underpin it are eroding. It may collapse.
The RMB yuan is used in international trade by only eight countries, yet the Chinese economy is not going down the shitter. Has anyone credible tried to quantify the effect of the USD no longer being used as a reserve currency or in international trade?
It's fine dude, Trump tweeted threats against any country that tried to get off the USD has the global reserve currency so therefore it definitely won't happen. Or something.
Yeah, you can read about it in the project 2025 page online....we know what is coming....we have for a few years...
For those who want to watch as the progress bar of doom slowly progresses...
Ok evil aside people really need to commend them on their execution. This is a damn successful destruction of democracy
Ohh up to 36% now. Time for the next bag of popcorn.
Thanks for posting this link. I had not read through Project 2025 before.
Is it just me or is the US heading into an economic recession? That thing reads like they are trying to destroy social cohesion, the environment, and probably the economy.
That thing reads like they are trying to destroy social cohesion, the environment, and probably the economy.
It sure does. Almost like he was an asset of an adversarial foreign government.
Is it just me or is the US heading into an economic recession?
Everyone but Trump, 77million magas, and Musk thinks so too.
Presumably whoever controls Musk wants it. Money has no countey, and the oligarchs are disaster capitalists, they profit from these kinds of events.
The design of that page makes it a bit too satisfying watching the tracker go up. Like watching an xp bar in a mmo bar go up or something. I'm almost rooting for it despite despising everything it stands for...
The "good" news is it's been stuck at 36% for a few days. But yeah, I see what you mean and had a similar thought.
If Dems were smart, and assuming we have a fair election next year, they'd have their own "Project 2027" in the works right now.
Of course, no one would believe them because they'll walk half of it back before they lose power again, but it would at least show they're adapting.
What we need is a manifesto for Rollback 2016. Any executive order from Trump? Invalid. Any appointment? Rescinded and Trump, Vance and any Trump appointee is removed from office and barred from any public office for life. Any corporation or billionaire that supported Project 2025 is guilty of treason and will have their assets expropriated as compensation. All legislation passed under Trump is summarily repealed. All regulatory decisions made by Trump appointees, likewise. Networks and sites that have repeated foreign propaganda will be sut down and their executives barred from ever running another public corportation and from holding public office. Tax windfalls for the rich from Trump's cuts will be reclaimed.
The Democrats won't do it. Someone will have to.
If Dems were smart they wouldn't have fucked Bernie in 2016
I think that is definitely the point where the US was at a crossroads.
For me it’s Al Gore losing that was definitely a start of some kind of fall. I know people point to Reagan often, but for me it’s Bush winning and starting all those wars.
That's a very good point. I think you're right.
That was when the US moved from covertly to openly breaking international human rights laws, introduced indefinite detention without trial, legally authorised itself to invade Europe, curtailed civil liberties, and rolled out a multi-national network of surveillance of its own citizens.
It also undercut rational reactions to climate change and normalized working-class right wing pride in having a president who sounds stupid to educated people. All of these things are arguably the groundwork for what they have now.
people were literally going back in time to try to assassinate him before the election. that should give us an indication of how bad it is going to get.
Trump is going to get worse until he's stopped. That has always been the case.
Iowa passed a law changing their state's interpretation of the Civil Rights Act to be one that excludes Gender Identity, they claimed they were doing it in order to protect women. This marks the first time that a group was removed from a protected status.
Chaos and Anarchy will break out in the US soon, the bad kind though.
not chaos and anarchy. any disruptions to order and civility will get crushed.
What's really got me sweating is the fact that we're living in sorta good times. A lot of people are struggling of course, and serious issues are unfolding, but imagine what the world could look like if we get hit by the next Great Recession or Great Depression. Things could quickly go from very bad to much, much worse.
I'll be the one to say it. We have been living in good times. The internet has the vocal crowd of naysayers. I believe they are signal boosted by "the algorithms" sowing the discontent bubble. That's why there hasn't been much counter-movement. Enough people are still too comfortable.
And you all can spare me the belligerent replies about how this or that sucks for whoever or whatever. That doesn't strike the fact that things are good for enough people such that there isn't mass breakdowns of social order.
It's actually kind of crazy how the system keeps bending yet nothing has completely snapped. We're not even at Occupy Wall Street level.
Living in good times? Tell that to the people getting deported. This clownery hasn't directly affected me yet. Everything is fine.
Like I said in my original comment:
"A lot of people are struggling of course,"
The deportations are terrible now. Imagine how they'd be if the world fell into a Great Depression. I'd be legitimately worried about frequent lynchings of immigrants.
I'm no economist, but I hear the economists are not thrilled with what Trump is doing to the economy. We're headed for a recession at minimum, if those folks are anything to go by.
I thknk you are. I just read through the Project 2025 stuff and it does seem to point to a recession.
As a non American with investments, I'm glad I read it.