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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (40 children)

Is there such a thing as left-wing authoritarianism

Yes, just go-to .ml or any of the other 2 in the Tankie Triad to see for yourself

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And then realize that if the point of leftist views is to liberate us from right-wing subjugation, and what the authoritarian left wants to do is still subjugate most of us, then maybe they're not our allies at all, actually. They're just fascism wearing a different, more ridiculous, hat

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fascism is inherently right wing. There are no left versions of fascism.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What if I told you that Stalin actively pursued several fascist policies?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What if I told you those were authoritarian and not fascist inherently and youre simply too dense to understand the nuance here...

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[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

That would meanStalin pursued some right wing policies. Fascism is far right.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They’re just fascism wearing a different, more ridiculous, hat

Hey, c'mon now, say what you like about MLs, but Soviet hats are cool

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fascism already took a perfectly good mustache from us, don't let it take the fuzzy hats, too!

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At least Pringles Man did the heroic job of reclaiming the Stalin stache before it could be ruined forever o7

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

"Pringles Man" initially had no name, only referred to as "Mr. P". Now, he is called Julius Pringles, after a 2006 Wikipedia hoax, eventually being "made canon" by Kellogg in 2013.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"A new study"? Has everyone forgotten about Stalin?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

So you consider Stalin to be "left"? How do you define left?

[–] Spazz@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Tell us, with actual facts, how Stalin was left

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

His just in:

Fucking duh.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

In other news. Water is wet.

Seriously how are people still trying to make the argument that lefties can't be authoritarian? Did everyone just sleep through history class?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago
[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

veneration of hierarchy is an inherently right wing trait.

The Authoritarian left exists in the same was Anarcho Capitalism does.

It fucking doesn't.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If one defines right-wing as pro-hierarchy, thus putting figures like Stalin as right-wing authoritarians, then you can still have left-wing authoritarianism by non-hierarchal enforcement of conformity and injustice. It's a much harder thing to sustain on scale, though.

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[–] belastend@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess the USSR wasnt left then

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This begs the question: What is the left/right divide?

If anti-authoritarianism is a core component of leftism, then "authoritarian leftists" are not actually leftist.

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