Do they at least explain how she got the name? I don't have a problem with representation, but that's a head turner.
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The whole thing looks like it was designed by Stable Diffusion
At this point I know this is just fan-baiting
Isn't that Disney's strategy this decade? Nostalgia traps or rage baiting
Damn...
kek. someone commented farquad is in this? i cant unsee it
Honestly, this trailer isn't all that bad. Clunky editing in the beginning and the existence of CGI elves is just a reminder of the jobs stolen from real people with dwarfism but all in all it's not bad. Love the structuring of not even bringing up the poisoned apple until the very end.
All of that said I don't care about the movie and won't be seeing it at all. Just a bit annoyed by people raging over this trailer when it's really not all that bad.
Just, yikes.
So is this another musical where they hide that fact from the trailer?
I'm not looking forward to hearing how Snow White isn't "white enough" from shitheads.
I mean, even all the way back in Grimm, she's described with "skin as white as snow, lips as red asΒ bloodΒ and hair as black asΒ ebony". Like I get what you're saying, but having very, very white skin is literally(literally literally) a central detail of the character. Hence the name.
I feel like maybe the answer isn't to keep remaking European fairy tales. Maybe the focus should be on, I dunno, folk tales from anywhere else? Or, God forbid, an original story?
Counterpoint: it doesn't matter as long as the movie is good. Literally who cares, take whatever parts of whatever old story, name whoever whatever, if the movie is good then great, if it isn't, it wouldn't be because it's not a faithful adaptation of half-remembered hudnreds years old story that was in turn half-remembered adaptation of a folk horror
While you're not wrong here, the race-swapping is still weird.
It's a regional story. If it was an African, or Asian, or Latin American, or American Indian story, would it be okay to make the characters European so long as the story is good?
If your answer is "Yes", then okay at least you're consistent, but a lot of people would disagree.
If your answer is "No, because white people are disproportionately represented in media", that's exactly why we should prefer making media based on other cultures and regions, rather than endlessly remaking the same European stories so Disney can protect their IP.
But many people of Asian and African descend grow up with fairytales of European origin. Some of them don't have any relationship to the local stories from the distant places their families once came from. It's not ok that they can adopt European culture but are not allowed to participate.
I don't care about her color but can we then just change the name? The entire point was that her skin was white.
Also, if skin color was the only thing then only a few racists would balk. This movie, however, is just a shit show. So yeah, you'll have a lotmor ooeope complaining, including about her skin color which is just dumb
It doesn't have to be skin in this version. How about teeth - and you can leave the name.
Already has been since the first casting notes.
These types of live-action remakes have been failing so I wonder if Disney does race-swapping like this just to grab attention they wouldn't otherwise get.
They can't do that for Mufasa, unfortunately.
The problem is the story was written by shitheads. Her name is a reference to how "fair" her skin was, being white as snow with lips as red as blood and hair as black as ebony. This was a standard of beauty in 19th century Germany. That characterization is problematic in a global market with various standards of beauty.
So the racist shitheads have a quasi-valid point that the modern reimagining of a racist (and misogynist) source fairy tale isn't quite as racist as the previous reimagining.
But the real question is why we're reimagining old, racist fairy tales?
I think I'm lost, can you elaborate on how is Snowwhite a racist fairytale?
It's based on the 19th century Northern European standard of beauty that paler (fair) skin is more beautiful. The source of the Evil Queen's jealousy is that Snow White is whitest and therefore most beautiful of them all. The Queen hires a murderer to cut out Snow White's heart because the Queen is only the second most whitest woman in all the land.
Yes because fair skin implied that you were rich or upper class. White/pale skin = not working the fields or as a maid cleaning and getting dirty.
That notion got turned on its head relatively recently, when in the 1920 Coco Chanel got a sun tan whilst in the French Rivera. Being tanned no longer meant that you were "low class".
A lot of old fairy tails are about paths to becoming rich. When Snow White was written it had little to do with race, if anything, and everything to do with classism. There was virtually no social mobility, if you were born poor you stayed poor! These are not aspirational stories designed to motivate you to better yourself, they are there to remind you of your place in the world.
racist in what sense?
I think it's a marketing thing. They want to provoke culture war bullshit. It's a bold strategy cotton, let's see how it works out for them.