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And we shouldn't allow this concept to go unchallenged here on Lemmy.

Commenting on an active post is not brigading

Posting a link to something is not brigading

Commenting on something you were linked to is not brigading

The only thing that might be brigading, but isn't because it isn't a real thing, is someone explicitly going, "Hey everyone, go here and harass this person"

It's all fine and good that we have some new rules to keep the peace with other instances but we must fight against reddit-logo brainworms

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In retrospect, it's funny how the liberals on lemmy.ml were haughtily saying "This may have been a tankie space once, but we will overwhelm them eventually and make it clear that they aren't welcome here" and then Hexbear comes in and they shit themselves.

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

they thought the reddit wave would be bigger but it turns out redditors like feeling smug more than actually leaving the corporate walled garden. so they aren't thaaat big and a good % of those who did come here are at least vaguely leftist. That plus hexbear=no more unchallenged "ebil seeseepee" type circlejerks

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

we have literally spent hours talking about thought terminating cliches, ready to fight them

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait till the realization sinks in that this is just the normal, organic amount of engagement they get from us because we're by far the most active lemmy instance

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People have been saying for years "soon, they will stop soon"

And I just say See you in 3 more years, let us know what you think

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's extremely weird. Like I'm just commenting on what appears on my all page, how is that brigading? It's literally a feature of the website.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Counterpoint: I'm a huge baby.

Didn't think of that one, did ya, pinko!?

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Liberals are used to games with rigged rules ("""International Rules Based Order"""🙄) and when the playing field is level it feels to them like everyone else is suddenly cheating

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[–] voight@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I AM BRIGADING YOU RIGHT NOW BUCKO. I AM THE ONE MAN BRIGADE

STAHP MODS PLS

[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Literally every dog pile I have seen has been some nerd talking shit, a chapo or 2 posting in good faith, the nerd says something extra stupid... nerd gets dog piled.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you see, when I call you a Chinese bot, or fake Russian names I'm being a very reasonable discussion partner

when you call me out for being a weird racist it's brigading, trolling, 4chan, and the type of behavior that needs to be defederated from

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Death to Russia = non-political

Death to NATO = I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS TYPE OF COMMENT

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

also weird that one is a country full of people and the other is an aggressive military alliance, If one died a whole lot of normal people would die, plus some war criminals

if Nato died it'd just be dead war criminals

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[–] Melonius@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It seems to me that instance has a very evident and festering scared-fash problem, which is incredibly strange for what is supposed to be a pro-trans instance.

They're being tone policed down to capitalist-woke levels, but they're still spreading the same hateful talking points that prevents the free expression that the admin team supposedly desires.

This is my first time seeing it first hand but it's so obvious and transparent that their liberal well intentioned inclusiveness has already backfired horrifically. When hexbear users confront these tone-adjusted fascists and question their hateful anti-left stance (something the mods and admin team should be doing but lack the spine) they cry and demand defed because their views absolutely can not stand up to any sort of serious analysis.

I will say I would not have seen this without federation. It genuinely makes me appreciate the amazing community thats been cultivated here because it's not easy to challenge, and remove, a polite abuser standing next to you.

If anyone is communicating with their admin team, I think they should be told to wake up because it will only get worse before their community is co-opted and they're the ones being "tolerated." I am being constantly reminded of this https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g?t=677

The fact that calling it out plays in to the fascists hands is pretty depressing too.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit, the site that's designed to have as many eyes as possible look at as wide a variety of posts as possible to bring about engagement has rules against the wrong people engaging.

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rule #1: do not be a communist

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Folks really haven't grasped that federation means it's not "your community" anymore, you're basically a subreddit now, with all the horrors that entails.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The liberals are welcome to come in here and "brigade" us as well. We won't complain. We'll just dunk.

And probably get accused of brigading our own threads or something.

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[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Brigading is when leftists are the most active posters and the more terminally online they are the more brigading it is.

[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

My favorite thing is when they accuse hexbear of downvote brigading. I've seen it a couple times.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I like when they accuse us of calling them specific insults, and then I can't tell what ones because it's blocked by the filter.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I honestly forgot the fediverse has downvotes.

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[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As usual, liberals just use different words when they like some vs. when they don't. When they don't like it? Brigading! When they do? Just raising concerns, I hate those red fash tankies.

PS they are envious of our knack for a self-organized united front.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Their culture is so snarky and anti-collaboration, they get pissy with each other nearly as much as they do with us, and they don't engage any differently in either case. I really do feel bad for these people who are trapped in the atomized, all against all social paradigm of the new internet.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So much of the 'brigading' is just comrades pointing out and challenging racism or bigotry and agreeing that a reactionary is racist or bigoted. I think its this kind of collaboration that comes off as so offensive to them sometimes; it's not something that any of us have to argue about, so it might always come off as co-ordinated to those who are used to saying whatever tf they like without consequence. Must be strange to be challenged when it's acceptable to be a a conservative or a 'progressive' and a POS throughout most of the western world.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What would it be like living in a world where anyone who dared to voice bigotry or misogyny or transphobia was immediately dogpiled by everyone around them? Like someone makes a bigoted comment in the grocery store and everyone around starts yelling at them and calling over the rest of the grocery to yell at them? Sure, witchhunts, whatever but god it would be nice living a world where if you encountered a bigot or a fascist or a cop everyone would pile in to help you without having to be asked or having to think about it.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

i just want to be able to call the gender stasi when some transphobe starts shit 😔

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It implies there are outside agitators coming in to disrupt a community.

But like.

The only "rule" for joining a community is to come inside. As soon as they post, they're not outside anymore.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

outside agitators

not coincidentally, a phrase with a long history of anticommunism and reactionary dismissal of working class concerns

[–] pissbabymaggie@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only "rule" for joining a community is to come inside. 

hyperflush

Volcel police.

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