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Why does my pc have a heart attack everytime this bloatware updates? Then it takes forever to load once I shutdown and restart. Thanks Bill Gate$ (satan).

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[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Might be time to switch to Linux.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think so too. Also seeing as my pc probably can't handle 11 anyway or so it says according to microshit. Amazing how they drive people away just to pander to techbro dipshits.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd recommend Kubuntu. Easy to use and a pretty familiar UI for Windows users.

Good suggestion

[–] thetaT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Kubuntu was too fiddly and overwhelming for new user me. I'd recommend Fedora - it ships the "stock" Linux experience, although it can be unfamiliar in some spots. But hey, we're not building a Windows replica here.

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have an old laptop at this point which runs on linux (I forgot if its fedora or suse, I haven't gotten to it in a while). I have another old one which is on win10. I will probably wait till next year then might make into linux laptop. Cause that's the only way I can breathe life into old laptops.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

You can run games on linux now, it is unironically the year(s) of the linux desktop!

libretion

Only piece of advice I'd give is not to try to set up dual-boot unless you know what you're doing. If you overwrite windows and install only linux it will almost certainly succeed, especially if you use a nice user-friendly distro. Dual-boot introduces a lot of complexity and I wouldn't recommend it unless you really want to learn a lot of stuff about UEFI and bootloaders. It might work but if it doesn't work you are extremely hosed unless you really know what you're doing.

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I've used linux since like 2017 ish. Dual boot at first but later windows fried the hard disk. Then completely linux. At that time I used manjaro. Most games I used to play just worked. Lutris rocks.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Dual boot works great if they're on separate drives and Linux is the default boot drive. The grub menu lets me pick my Windows drive as well as my other Linux drive. That said I use Windows like once per month for 1 or 2 things and then run away screaming and crying back to Linux as soon as I'm done.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i don't think it's that bad if you use a second drive for linux instead of trying to have both installs on a single drive

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Addressed in sister comment. This is authentically terrible advice.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i never had any issues and from cursory googling people talk about a few warts with the process but nothing close to it being terrible

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"works for me" -> you are sentenced to answering three linux newbie/debug questions online

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you separately install each OS to a separate drive (no dual booting) then it works fine, there's no mixing of boot entries or partitions. Just use manual boot override on your motherboard to select the other if you want to switch to the other OS.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Memory is hazy since this was three years ago but I remember windows not handling/liking multiple EFI partitions. Perhaps that has changed, or the disk order matters or something.

Like there's this article: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-security/cannot-boot-windows-on-primary-hard-disk-uefi

You may also encounter this issue if a second hard drive is added that has a pre-existing EFI partition and bootable OS on it as well. Because of differences in hardware and firmware boot options, it's unknown which Windows OS will be set as the primary boot disk.

[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I dual boot Ubuntu with Windows 10 on a second drive since 2-3 years, but I don't understand why it works then. I only have one EFI partition (whatever that is) though, on my Linux drive, and I can boot from either drive just fine.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the solutions to it getting stuck on installing updates is to turn your pc off, wow great software where you have to turn it off in the middle of it to make it work. Brilliant work from a billion dollar company.

I also like how searching your pc for files shows ads, exactly what I wanted.

[–] sawne128@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I like how it always says "Do not turn off your computer" when that happens.

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You still update windows 10. I blocked em a while ago. I only do driver updates manually.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

not even security updates? malware salivating rn

[–] abc@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

probably cause your PC is shit comrade

[–] farting_weedman@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

If you have an ssd run spinrite level 2 scan.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Built a new rig late last year and put w10 on it, no problems on my end. But I did a lot of work to de-bloat it. Had to get a work laptop at the same time and it has W11 - pure dog shit, the OS itself feels like it's a virus. I'm actually going to install Windows 10 on it for compatability needs.

Every time I try Linux I get lost in all kinds of issues with compatability and it just takes me too much time to learn all the ins and outs of how to fix it. I set up a home media server and NAS on proxmox and it took me months.

[–] thetaT@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, Fedora was the one distro that I felt like I didn't have to fight. It's super stable, but receives regular updates, and is overall meant to be the "stock" experience - shipping stock GNOME (or KDE, if that's your thing) by default.

It's also the distro I've had the least amount of compatibility issues with

Thanks for the tip, I'll test drive it! 🙂