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not letting me post nobodies in the dunk tank just turns chapotraphouse into the dunk tank 2 very-smart

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't imagine what that life must be like, believing in nothing except your next paycheck. Why even get up in the morning, if not to fight for a better world?

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of the Iranian cleric who said America's heros are spiderman and spongebob.

All I can feel is sadness and pity for these people.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

No sense of shared humanity or duty to the biosphere, how nihilistic

[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

haha holy shit this is literally just all my coworkers

The overwhelming sentiment amongst Google office workers is they hated the people who did the sit-in protest

Except it's more like "I bet they were all DEI hires who can't code anyways"

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

"I hate DEI!"

"Also, hey btw if you're looking for career advice, the most important thing is networking! It means you get hired because you're buddies with the CEO and he likes you as a friend. That's totally not nepotism, trust me."

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So is DEI the new “woke” or something for the American right-wing?

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Slightly different niche. It's a new way of calling people a racial slur.

[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

It's actually more misogynistic and transphobic than racist

It was largely born out of the new culture war against trans people and tech companies pushing to hire women more and so affirmative action, something that is primarily targeted at Hispanic and black people no longer sufficed as an target to attack

[–] whatup@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

It’s because they can’t complain about affirmative action anymore because it no longer exists. It’s always something with the reactionary babies.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's honestly amazing at a certain point the amount of somersaults they do to avoid literally ever saying "yes, what Israel is doing is wrong."

It's the same reactionary playbook for everything.

Cops kill a black teenager "yeah but why did he have a hoodie up and why are all these angry black people burning down Starbucks?!" Instead of "why the fuck do we continue to allow cops the power to kill anyone regardless of whatever reason is given?"

Or someone is homeless "why don't they work? How much are they spending on drugs? Why don't they just get a roommate?" It's never "homelessness has no place in a civilized society. Let's simply build some fucking houses and give them to people- yes, even the ones using drugs or not working."

I know people are conditioned into certain ways of thinking and all that. I was too. But it just becomes more and more unbelievable to me as days go by that they're simply just ignorant. Especially on Gaza. As soon as you saw one dead or dying kid, I mean come on man. Who the fuck goes "no that's fine. Stfu college kids!"

You're literally not even a human if you act like that. Being human isn't just breathing and eating and shitting it's also all the other stuff... actually it's ONLY the other stuff that separates us from other animals. Dogs and spiders breathe, eat and shit too. But humans are supposed to love, have compassion, supposed to care about children and the defenseless in society. These dipshit Zionists on Twitter absolutely know the statistic that nearly half of Gaza are under 18. Literally that one stat should be enough for any actual human to go "hold up..." Even if you don't value the lives of the young militants, ok, but you're just bombing kids. Or cheering for/condemning those who say to stop (same thing). At this late stage anyone who still even slightly supports the state of Israel is always going to be suspect for the rest of my life. It's like the people who in the 1970s who were obsessed with Rhodesia. You won't find many today who admit to supporting it, for good reason. It's a permanent stain that follows them forever.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

I feel your pain and frustration at having people get sucked into this demonic thinking that the egregore of capital requests. It does feel like people lose or even willingly give up their humanity. I'm thinking of my family who will find any reason to justify cop killings, homeless deaths, imperialism. Maybe it helps with cognitive dissonance in their twisted way as they can't face the challenges of what it would take to change their world and themselves. They were recently mocking the protests too when they were blocking the golden gate bridge? Why? I guess how dare people inconvenience other (white) people, while they're blind to every other injustice in this world. There may as well be an antichrist, as they are following them.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're literally not even a human if you act like that.

fidel-wut

Not a good path to go down, especially when you're talking about online comments, not even direct involvement in atrocities.

[–] sappho@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It also just isn't true that humans are the only creature that shows empathy. We've observed altruistic and empathetic behaviors in lots of animals, and I think anyone with a pet would argue they can love

[–] T34_69@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Dogs and cats have more humanity than some of these rabid Zionists I've interacted with, TBH

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

not letting me post nobodies in the dunk tank just turns chapotraphouse into the dunk tank 2

waow-based

[–] buh@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Do what you can to reduce the power of a genocidal project, even if it’s only by 0.0001%

OR

Be the creator of the next cybertruck or vision pro?

The choice is obvious my-hero

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This tweeter was asking in bad faith, but genuinely, why did this start on bougie campuses? I realize that stufents from wealthy backgrounds arent necessarily all monsters, but its not a group I would have expected to take point on a potentially revolutionary action

[–] AFineWayToDie@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because college kids have time, money, and access to information.

[–] astreus@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is basically the argument Castro makes in "My Life" as to why revolutions tend to start with someone that is a descendent of the capitalist class (Castro - father was a plantation owner; Lenin - father was a state councillor and appointed to the hereditary nobility; Mao - father was a moneylender and one of the wealthiest farmers in the region)

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Good stuff to remember in discussions about class traitors.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Related, also why so many revolutionary movements begin with providing education to the people, and why liberated societies often begin building their new society by building robust education and scientific institutions

[–] CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a good point there but I think it's even a bit more nuanced. Castro's father did not come from old money. From what I understand he was born a poor peasant in 1875 and spent the first quarter of his life doing hard labour and military service. Fidel wasn't a pure bourgeois class traitor - he was from an upwardly mobile family that hit a limit. There's an interesting bit in a graeber book about this:

Speaking broadly, it seems to me activist milieus can best be seen as a juncture, a kind of meeting place, between downwardly mobile elements of the pro­fessional classes and upwardly mobile children of the working class. The first consist of children of white-collar backgrounds who reject their parents' way of life: the daughter of a tax accountant who chooses to work as a carpenter, the daughter of veterinarian who chose to live as a graphic artist, the son of a middle manager who chooses to become a civil engineer or professional activist. The other consisted of children from blue-collar backgrounds who go to college. In historical terms, both correspond to a classic stereotype. The first repre­sents the classic recruitment base for artistic bohemia; if not children of the bour­geoisie, as they were often assumed to be in 1850s Paris, where the term was first coined, then children born to members of administrative or professional elites, living in voluntary poverty, experimenting with more pleasurable, artistic, less alienated forms of life. The second represents the classic stereotype of the revolutionary, particularly in Global South: children of the laboring classes (workers, peasants, small shop-owners even) whose parents strived all their life to get their sons or daughters into college, or even who managed to get themselves bourgeois levels of education by their own efforts, only to discover that bourgeois levels of education do not actually allow entry into the bourgeoisie, or often, any sort of regular work at all. One can compile endless examples among the ranks of the last century's revolutionary heroes: from Mao (child of peasants turned librarian), to Fidel Castro (unemployed lawyer from Cuba), and so on. In fact, both bohemia and revolutionary circles have historically tended to be a meeting place of both.

Obviously this is a highly schematized picture. First of all, it leaves out some significant groups entirely: for example, those who adopted bohemian lifestyles because their parents were bohemian, or the children of professional activists. One should not underestimate the degree of self-reproduction in such sub-class­es. Also: while the stereotype of the bohemian as rich kid-secretly supporting his absinthe habits with money from home, eventually either to die of dissipa­tion or go back to the board of daddy's company-is strikingly similar to the stereotype of the activist as trust-fund baby, it is probably no more accurate. Certainly there have always been scions of the bourgeoisie in both milieus, all the more influential for their money, social skills, and connections. But bohemian milieus of the last 150 years never really consisted primarily of children of the up­per, or even professional, classes. As Pierre Bourdieu (1993) has recently shown, the social base for nineteenth century bohemian culture in Europe emerged, in part, through exactly the same processes that shaped social revolutionaries in the Global South: among talented children of peasants, for example, who had taken advantage of France's new educational system, and then found themselves excluded from conventional elite culture anyway. What's more, these milieus tended to overlap. Bohemia was full not only of working-class intellectuals and self-taught eccentrics, but outright revolutionaries. The friendship between Oscar Wilde and Peter Kropotkin was not atypical; actually, it could be taken as em­blematic. Similarly, revolutionary circles have always been filled with children of privilege who have rejected their natal values: Karl Marx (lawyer's son turned penniless journalist) being the archetypical example. Every Mao had his Chou En-Iai, even Castro had his CM. The constitution of both milieus, then, is really quite similar. Which probably helps explain why artists have felt so consistently drawn to revolutionary politics.

[–] astreus@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Well, Castro actually talks about that as well.

He argued it was important to be the child of a bougie, not a grandchild so as not to be desensitised through normalcy (note: every example given above were the child of "success", not the grandchild.)

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Further education is very heavily linked with approval for left-wing policies. There's some big correlation between learning stuff about the world and being politically left-wing. When that information floods to an otherwise very sheltered group, I guess you're likely to see reactions.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Funny how knowledge does that

[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is not entirely true

More education correlates higher with voting Democrat but once you start taking into account anti-war sentiment, progressive economic policies, etc.

Education starts having an inverse relationship with support for the aforementioned

I'm lazy but there's tons of pills on Americans to support this if you look them up

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I would be interested to see papers. Because when googling I can only find studies that conclude somewhere between a mixed and significant link between education and supporting left-wing policies.

[–] WELCOMETHRILLHO@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

So the reason why this movement specifically is tied to these “big” schools is twofold:

The “divest” part of BDS is directed at wealthy private schools like Harvard and Yale who have large financial stakes in the defense industry and Israeli companies. Their schools are, through their investments, much more complicit than Podunk State.

These elite schools are recruiting and/or research institutions for the military/industrial complex, and are therefore more involved than other institutions. Schools like Stanford are integral to the maintenance and perpetuation of the war machine, and therefore the actions of the student body are in response to that context.

[–] whatup@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Implying that MLK was an activist because of low SAT scores is quite a take. I’m guessing she’s the type of conservative who rants about affirmative action and iq whenever she thinks of Black ppl.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Wow. What a pile of shit.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its greed.

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Look, right out of school I started working for a energy company but it has a progressive outlook. It's true that the vast majority of our business is oil and gas but...

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

What a sad and pathetic person