N.B. misandry is not real because men are not systemically oppressed (uninternalize your reddit MRA today: men suffer some drawbacks under the patriarchy but ultimately still maintain it due to the large amount of privileges they receive under it!)

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[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

what's wrong if some people use rhetoric that rejects misandry vs. not then?

"Misandry doesn't exist" is a debatable position that gets you little or nothing even if you win the argument. From what I've seen, statements like this also lead to unproductive turns like "and if you disagree you're a reactionary" in a way "misandry is a symptom of patriarchy" doesn't.

it is not unreasonable to think these equivalent words describe equivalent things

Fair point, but it's easily cleared up by saying that misogyny exists systematically in a way misandry doesn't.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

but it's easily cleared up

i don't think this thread would have so many comments if this was true agony-soviet

in any case i don't think we're fundamentally at odds having chased this argument into the very small redoubt of 'what pedagogy works best', i won't complain if you teach a man to be less shit with "misandry is a symptom of patriarchy" stalin-heart

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

having chased this argument into the very small redoubt of 'what pedagogy works best'

Another fine day on Hexbear!

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