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I'm not likely to buy this game, but I'm still more likely to buy it than willingly visit Florida (I'll only go if I get sent to the concentration camp)

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Florida be swimming with the fishes soon dear, very soon.

Never pay ownership money to rent a game someone else owns and can steal from you at any time. The only games that exist are those you can play in 50 years on a whim because you fucking bought them.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My plan is to play gta 6 in 50 years so I can visit Miami when it no longer exists 😁

When GTA6 becomes a period piece:

"Oh! Remember when cars used to look like that?"
"Remember when cars used to be above water?"
"It's so dry here!"

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The weather is going to continue to get worse but I keep seeing people perpetuating the idea that sea levels rising will be significant enough to put Florida "underwater". Orlando is 112 ft over sea level. Sea level is estimated to rise 10-12 inches over the next 25 years. The Everglades and the Keys will be in trouble but the majority of the state have been built up off sea level because of storm surge. In the grand scheme of things I would be more worried to live in tornado alley or the arid areas like Arizona.

I plan to move to the Canadian border one day to hopefully put some roots in the future green zone.

I'm at 35ft above sea level at the moment and wish I could go a day without seeing something hateful about my state. It's frustrating enough that I have to live around all these conservative geezers. It would be really nice if some aging millennials would start a demographic shift. It's not so long ago that Florida was a swing state.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Large sections will remain above sea level, but Miami is fucked, and arguably before it ever becomes underwater. Sea water creep ruins fresh water sources far further inland than it submerges them, while the Peninsula shape causes most of the state within 50 miles of the ocean. On top of that, hurricanes have already caused neighborhoods to become abandoned, as there isn't the money or will to rebuild something that'll just end up destroyed again. As infrastructure gets ruined and people flee, the state will not have the ability to maintain itself. Florida will go from one of the most populus states to an Oklahoma sized one.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree with you about most of that but people will continue to live in Florida and likely it will become even more corpo. Hopefully our building standards shift since home insurance availability is becoming a crisis.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It won't be an intentional exodus; just an economically inevitable one. The cost for even the corpos won't outweigh the benefits, with the only property that'll be financed is the property that is more temporary.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

People are stubborn. I anticipate a more RV and condominium centric development. Many of these investments will be sure to fail after 50 years but by then the decision makers will be retired. But I expect the livability of Florida to remain on par with other areas until 2070. We are going to see an increase in natural hazards all over the world. With these we will hopefully see advancements in material science and construction. People are stubborn and adversity breeds progress.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You picked the only real landlocked city in Florida to mention sea level? 2,400,000 Florida residents live less than 4 feet above high tide. 75% of the state lives on the coast. I'm here too, and half the roads have drainage problems when it rains. Planes couldn't land at the ft Lauderdale Airport in 2023 because the runways flooded. It's gonna be a mess man

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I picked a central point at random to illustrate that the whole peninsula isnt at risk. 2.4 million people is only about 10% of the state. Most of the coastal areas are built up off the waterline because of persistent storm surge. My first sentence was that the weather is going to get worse and that is absolutely going to be a big fucking problem. The 12 inches in sea level isn't going to flood the state on its own, thats all I'm saying. Whether or not the government steps in to help people proactively move out of the compromised areas is the real ask.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No offense was intended and I know it can be draining. Sorry for that. I don't mean to be a negative influence on anyone in real life.

The models of stable sea level rise make a lot of assumptions that are handwaving some large looming problems. They are mostly based on the past where it is presumed that no events are large enough to be significantly greater than average.

I just woke up and cannot recall off the top of my head the name of the ice sheet in question, but there is an enormous body of ice grounded under the sea in Antarctica that is eroding at the grounding edge in an exponential way. If the sea makes its way under the foot of that ice, the sheet or holds back is in a position to raise sea levels at a rate far greater than anything since the last ice age.

I like to follow some content creators that cover scientific papers, have academic credentials and maintain a credible reputation. These are my general entertainment. It keeps me somewhat up to date on the edge of research and what is happening without the filter of emo corporate narratives. If I recall correctly, when this info from Antarctica was published, shortly after that is when insurance in Florida was cut off. Regardless of anyone's narrative, the insurance aspect is a truth sayer I pay attention to. The party of exploitation would force insurance to change if they actually believed climate change was not real and were not the party of halfwits eating their own tail. Likewise if the only significant potential threat is a logarithmic curve, I expect insurance would have been pulled in stages. The way insurance regulation was handled, no one could make arguments for stable decline that could override the significance of variables of uncertainty. All the narratives about this are hollow words to me. I care about the actions taken and what that implies on a systems level. I look at this about like I how I did inventory planning and buying for a chain of bike shops. There is a ton of hype to deal with from all different directions but I only care about the sales history of my shops and interpreting meaning based upon this data alone.

The data points to certain plateaus of climate. That meshes well with what you see in geological rock formations. Those layers are sharp in transition. They don't record the turbulent times; only the times of stability. Still rock layers usually have strong stratigraphic differentiation where the change was not gradual. A thousand years is like a second on geological time scales, so it doesn't align perfectly. However, the atmospheric rate of change is unparalleled on these time scales. I expect an equally unparalleled rate of change from peripheral and linked systems. Just looking at the forecast in SoCal and how often the ocean is overtopping a bike trail now compared to daily riding from 15 years ago to now, things are changing far faster than models predict. The forecast is always too cool by nearly 5 degrees on a high end bike computer that is consistent. The temp in the past was usually within a degree or two of forecast. Terrible 5G radio emissions regulations that ruin the hydrogen line may be slightly to blame for bad forecasting, but the error rate is consistently one sided and I think that indicates a bad model. Weather forecasting models are also tied to climate change models now IIRC.

Again I don't mean to be chicken little here. It probably won't be catastrophic change. I would not buy property in Florida, and I tell my family there to leave.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The 10-12 in over the next 25 years is a lot. Historically it's 3mm a year. Without digging too deeply I believe these estimates are accommodating for the deterioration of sea ice.