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They call it "dark traffic" - ads that are not seen by tech-savvy users who have excellent ad blockers.

Not surprised that its growing. The web is unusable without an ad blocker and its only getting worse, and will continue to get worse every month.

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 325 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I used the internet for a long time before ad blockers even existed. Everybody simply ignored ads, instead. But that wasn't good enough for the advertisers. They weren't happy unless we were forced to look at the ads. Extraordinarily obtrusive ads. Popup ads. Popunder ads. That's when people started blocking ads. When you realized that your browser always ended up with 20 extra advertising windows.

Nobody really cared about blocking ads until advertisers forced us to. They made the internet annoying to use, and sometimes impossible to use.

Advertisers couldn't just be happy with people ignoring their ads, so they forced our hands and fucked themselves in the process. Now, we block them by default. I don't even know any websites that have unobtrusive ads because I never see their ads in the first place.

Now, they want to go back to the time when we would see their ads but ignore them. Fuck off. We know we can't even give them that much. If you give them an inch, they'll take a mile.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago

Dont forget the ads that are straight scams or malware

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the big turning point I remember was a combo of popups and interstitial ads

Popups we all know and hate as they still exist and are disgusting. They were obviously gross and ate up ram and stole focus and shit

But the interstitial ads were also gross. You’d click a link and then get redirected to an ad for 10 seconds and then redirected to content. Or a forum where the first reply was replaced with an ad that was formatted to look like a post

Like adblocking was a niche thing prior to the advertising industry being absolute scumbags. The original idea that allowing advertising to support free services like forums and such wasn’t horrible, put a banner ad up, maybe a referral link, etc. but that was never enough for the insidious ad industry. Like every other domain they’ve touched (television, news, nature, stores, cities, clothing, games, sports, literally everything a human being interacts with).

The hardline people that blocked banner ads way back when and loudly complained allowing advertising in any capacity on the internet would ruin everything were correct. We all groaned because no one wanted to donate to cover the hosting bills (which often turned out to be grossly inflated on larger sites by greedy site operators looking to make bank off their community) but we should have listened

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

The turning point for me is when banner ads added sounds. I would tolerate and ignore the flashing lights and the fake "games", but then I encountered one that any time my mouse went over top of it an emoji screamed "HELOOOOOOOOO!!!" at me and I couldn't download an ad blocker fast enough.

It's never enough for these assholes unless they have all of your attention all of the time.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The main clencher that got me running a blocker were the few sites whose payload was 90% ad related and as long as the page was open it kept feeding me more ads until a gigabyte of RAM and 5% of my CPU were dedicated to something I wasn't even looking at.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ex was mad that my PiHole was blocking some FB stuff so I turned it off.

"The internet's slow."

Looked over her shoulder and pointed to her (still loading) screen:

"Ad, ad, ad, ad, ad, ad, ad, ad..."

"FINE! Turn it back on!"

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don’t date stupid people. Incentivize intelligence.

[–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know surgeons who can’t start a zoom call. Being uneducated in a particular area is not stupidity. If you avoid dating someone over their lack of adtech knowledge, I would assume they are the one that dodged a bullet.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

adtech is nothing new or exotic. We have been dealing with this shit for years. if they still do not have a very basic knowledge of it by now, that's not a great sign.

[–] 418_im_a_teapot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Unix and lawnmowers are nothing new or exotic either. I’m not stupid for not knowing how to repair a lawnmower, and I wouldn’t presume you’re stupid just because I can run circles around you at the command line.

I would, however, question your intelligence if you lack the ability to perceive the reasons behind different people knowing different things. It’s not that complicated.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

Oh I’m fully aware people can specialize their intelligence, focusing so much on some areas they neglect others and fall behind. However, that’s also a choice they made. That unbalanced tech tree was their own doing.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ads used to be static text in the sidebar that the site owner manually put there. They didn't have any tracking and didn't slow down the loading time. Once they started adding images, I started using an ad blocker. I was stuck on dial-up until 2008 and a single, small image could add 10 or more seconds to the page loading time.

I was even okay with images. It’s when the images started moving, making it difficult and distracting to read text that I realized if they are willing to sacrifice the core purpose of the page for ads, it’s only going to get worse.

Remember the target that would move back and forth really quickly to try to get you to click it?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

2008! Bro I feel for you, retrospectively.