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Sure is neat how voting third party suddenly isn't collaboration.
Sure is neat how your argument has no relevance.
Anyone with the slightest criticism of biden or harris last year was called a trump supporter.
And anyone with the slightest support of them here is called a genocide supporter. Your point?
Unconditional genocide support certainly wasn't a dealbreaker for them, was it?
The point that you're deliberately pretending to miss in typical centrist bad faith is this: During the 2024 election, anyone who didn't like the genocide and suggested that democrats didn't represent them was immediately called a trump supporter. Certainly anyone who suggested voting third party was, on the grounds that any vote not cast for harris was somehow a vote for trump.
But now that the candidate is a progressive, voting third party is perfectly fine by the same people. If I were to apply centrists' spurious logic to this situation, you want sliwa to win.
If that’s what you think Biden’s or Kamala’s position was, you’re as biased as the opposition, and I think I’m done with you because of it. You’re not going to convince me of anything when you’ve demonstrated you have no perspective.
They placed no conditions on arms sales for netanayhu's genocide. That's called unconditional support.
there's no convincing you of anything that runs contrary to the netanyahu wing of the party.
All the people that had criticized the "vote blue no matter who" line of the centrists as being destructive in the long run, especially as people here started touting completely deranged things along the line of "Yeah both Harris and Trump want a genocide, but Harris will make less bad of a genocide than Trump, so we should vote her.", are now having the "told you so" moment.
The entire talk in the general election was nothing but gaslighting the voters who refused to vote for genocide. The entire claim of "party loyalty" and "change through the party is possible" was a set of lies peddled by the "centrists" that rather want a fascist win than a modest social democrat, who wants to observe basic laws of the US and basic international laws. Now that this "loyalty" goes the other way, the centrists just flipped the script, proving that none of their claims were serious to begin with.
This is relevant, as it proves that the Democratic party is not the vehicle through which to bring positive change, at least not until all the DNC ghouls are kicked out of the party, publicly shamed and stripped of any political influence. Maybe Mamdani is a step in that direction, but we see how the DNC ghouls are already fighting back, as they have one goal and one goal only. To help the oligarchy exploit the people.
If this is how you see the Democratic Party, I don’t see how you have any right to call yourself a moderate and not a radical. You are quite clearly biased and unhinged. You’re not going to change my mind with that bullshit.
I have my problems with the Democrats, but viewing them in black and white is crazy.
Embracing yourself as a moderate in the face of a country supporting genocide, bragging about mass deportations, building concentration camps and having unidentified gangs abduct people on the streets, all while your healthcare, education and infrastructure are failing is part of the problem.
The term radical refers to taking problems at the root. The US oligarchy is the root and both the DNC and GOP are symptoms of that root evil. As long as you want to treat symptoms, you are not going to solve the problem.
LOL, you definitely are a radical, even to the point of not knowing what “radical” means. I have nothing to say to you. Ta-ta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_politics
This is sort of hilarious, because I'd think you have a duty to call yourself a radical. If you're not a radical by now, then you're just a collaborator. It's not about black and white, it's about black and blacker.
Of course one has to act and vote in a sane manner and play politics, but if your rhetoric and our demands aren't seen as radical by the mainstream, that's a problem. Like e.g. universal healthcare.