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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

No, he’s trying to win for his own ambition of power. Calling him a Nazi collaborator for that is idiotic. Just because what he’s doing helps Nazis doesn’t make him a collaborator. Grow the fuck up.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure is neat how voting third party suddenly isn't collaboration.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Y'all spent all general shouting how a vote for anyone other than Kamala was a vote for Trump and how those running third party campaigns are just helping Trump win.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, third party candidates aren't working for the other side?

"A vote for Cuomo is a vote for Sliwa.".

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If he knows what he is doing cannot possibly lead to his own success, splitting the blue vote can't lead to him winning, then he is deliberately trying to put the nazis in power over his citizens knowing some of them will be harmed. He's absolutely a collaborator.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m sure he thinks he can win. But even if he didn’t, that doesn’t make him a collaborator. You misunderstand the term. It requires intent. You’re just trying to stack the deck by polarizing it. And I’m sure you think you’re doing the right thing. It’s just that your willful ignorance about the semantics of the term you’re using is harmful. Casting Cuomo as a Nazi gains you nothing but self-righteous purpose. Your cause isn’t righteous, no more than any other cause. You’re just an ideologue of a particular stripe. Have fun being that. From what I hear, it’s a lonely existence.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Nobody who splits his own sides vote can win mathematically. To simplify you need side /2 - loss from infighting > opposition.

By continuing to shit on your own side you tend not only to draw votes for yourself you tend to decrease turnout, enthusiasm, and tell the other sides story for them. All with zero hope of actually winning because you will never out earn the default party vote. EG if just 10% just vote for the official party members it doesn't matter if you convince 55% of the remaining side to side with you you've already lost.

This is why this strategy hasn't worked this century.

Please pray tell when has a major election been won by a fellow running against his own side? Be specific. Remember major impact elections like Mayor of NYC +