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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

I don't actually want to say this but the USA was founded on genocide. It literally killed the native americans to take their land, same as hitler attempted to do with the polish people.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 12 hours ago

And...? Oh that was your whole point? Oh.

Yeah dude, we fucking know.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

i see this sentiment a lot, and i just wonder if there are some people unaware that America was colonized by europeans

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 9 hours ago

I think it's more that we are way into blissful ignorance in this country.

If you polled the citizens to ask whether America was founded/discovered by European explorers, the vast majority would agree. But of course, even if 80% or 90% get it right that still means tens of millions got it wrong.

But if you polled the citizens to ask whether US territory was simply discovered or stolen from existing inhabitants by murdering/genociding them, I bet you would flip the numbers.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

OK so we should just let them keep doing it then

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

That doesn't mean we should keep doing it.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Hitler’s whole plan was modeled after American genocide, Manifest Destiny, and eugenics.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

We are the big brother to Nazism. The USA been playing that good fascist bad fascist game for a long time now.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 12 hours ago

Also Jim Crow laws

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Eugenics in America predates the third Reich.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

Generally something would need to exist for it to be used as a model in another thing, yes

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

It was also modeled on our auto industry and car culture.

[–] throbbing_banjo@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

If you sell them guns as you're killing them, you get to call it a war and not genocide.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

"That wasn't genocide, it was an upgrade. They had no civilization. We rehabbed those savages." –my grandfather, probably.