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Some of the seven Democrats who voted for Noem say they'd now oppose her in the wake of Trump's aggressive deportation plans and last week's incident involving Sen. Alex Padilla.

Five days after Donald Trump's inauguration, seven Senate Democrats voted to confirm Kristi Noem to lead the Department of Homeland Security.

Nearly 5 months later, most of them are critical of her, with some going as far as to say they regret their votes.

"I'm very disappointed. I'm very disappointed in her," Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., told NBC News this week. "If I were voting on her today, I definitely wouldn't vote for her."

Freshman Sen. Andy Kim, D-N.J., also said he would vote differently and oppose her nomination if he could do it again.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Good morning, idiots. Did it never cross your little minds that a Trumpist candidate could be anything but pure shit on legs?

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Exactly. This is why I have so little respect for Democrats these days. They go on TV and call red alert and say Trump is awful and Trump is horrible and we all have to do everything we can to oppose Trump, and then they go ahead and rubber stamp his candidates and his agenda, refusing to use political options that are very much open to them create the opposition they are so loudly claiming is necessary.
If Trump is truly that awful, they could simply refuse to confirm his candidates, make them fight tooth and nail and bargain with them for every single vote.
But they did not. So the only conclusions are either a, they did not actually feel Trump was awful and all the red alert press conferences were just performant political theater, or b, they have not actually stood up for real principle or wielded real power in so long they don't remember how to do it.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

IMO, it was performative. I think the Democratic Party for the most part is controlled opposition for the owner-class. It's foolish to continue to support them, or really any facet of this oppressive government.

Clean 'em all out and let's build anew.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Yup. We need a new party, with the goal of overhauling the political system so that we aren't stuck with Geronocrats nor Turdpublicans. First past the post has led to being forced to choose between a log and diarrhea.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Vote Drumph and his various human shaped Cabinet butt plugs out of power first. As shockingly bad as the dems are, the GOP is still far worse.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Nobody said they weren't, but they amount to the same problem in reality. I'm also tired of doing the same thing over and over and expecting new results. We've done it your way for decades and all they do is capture all leftward pressure and defuse it. Forcing our march ever rightward. They work for the owner class, not for you or me.

We're in this situation because of your line of thinking. On average there are 40% of eligible voters that don't vote, and that's in the Presidential race only. It's much higher for nearly all offices, outside of the ones we vote on every 4 years. I believe this apathy is brought about because these people see no value in voting, as it changes nothing meaningful in their lives. This isn't to say that they weren't better, but anytime they had to make progressive moves, they make conservative ones that benefit the owner class.

At some point it's time to wake up and do something different.

Edit: Typos

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

Nope. Your line of thinking keeps him in power forever. Drumph must GO, asap. Worry about the rest afterwards.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not a Trump fan. But I've been an adult long enough to remember this being said about just about every election. That yeah we should do better we will eventually do better but not this time, right now it's most important to get rid of the other party or make them lose the election no matter what. It's the same thing every few years.

It's like hitting the snooze button over and over and over again, if you keep hitting it eventually your alarm times out or you just end up late for work.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Funny. I'm 70 years old and have never heard that argument before. It's also funny that you consider 2 week Donnie and his daily fuckups, as somehow equal to other, actually sane and somewhat competent presidents. Only 100+ days in, and the damage he has already inflicted is incalculable. USA will never recover it's international reputation and prestige, ever. He and his gang of billionaire incompetents have destroyed millions of lives, and now he's working on starting WW3. Only a magat would find equivalency here, Mr "I'm not a trump fan" LOL.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 17 hours ago

Propaganda is one hell of a drug, ain't it?