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You guys are maybe being a little hasty... Many other members of the Trump administration can get forcibly hauled into court even if Trump has "immunity."
Let me know when that happens.
And let me know when you second amendment types actually do something. 👍
You mean the people who wish death on people who are absolutely destroying humanity? Or, gun people? Because, I don’t own a gun. 🤷♂️
Both. I just think the "oh well we must immediately escalate to bloodshed" people are only serving to worsen the situation because it skips over all the other legitimate ways we have of fighting back, like protest and the courts. Ways that a bigger portion of the populace is willing to participate in (currently). And right now we need everyone who's reasonable resisting in any way they can.
I seriously hope you’re right. I’d rather not see a bunch of people die. But I haven’t seen anything at all to suggest the usual ways are gonna work, and by the time we realize that it will be too late (if it’s not already).
Give me hope, tell me something that is actually going to stop them and is likely to work.
No single thing is going to fix this. It's going to take a concerted effort of protests and economic boycotts and judges doing their job and elected officials doing their job and the fucking media doing their job and public sentiment souring further on Trump and people refusing to follow unlawful orders and yes maybe even a little direct action. Not all of it is going to work and not all of it has to work. My only point here is we can't just think there's a single silver bullet (pun intended) because that breeds inaction for all other forms of resistance. We each need to find a way to resist and do that instead of waiting for somebody who isn't coming to save the day.
Okay so literally nothing. Just lots of “resist” with no actual directions or suggestions. You can see we’re fucked, you just don’t want to admit it because you’re not the violent kind (not a bad thing under normal circumstances, I’m not insulting).
But you’ve really just outlined my whole problem. If the pacifists can’t actually announce a believable plan, this time they need to step aside.
If you think that list of ways to resist are "nothing," then there's nothing more I can tell you. Good luck with your sitting around and waiting for violent revolution.
And I never said I was a pacifist. I said it takes multiple types of resistance to effectively counter fascism.
Your vague “protest” suggestions are not a list. You’re just as unhelpful as everyone else. Yeah, me included.
We are fucked haha.
Do you need me to hand-hold you all the way to a protest? Okay, here's how it works:
Don't like that idea? Fine. Then find a way to resist that better suits you. But whining on the internet that "there's nothing that can be done, we are fucked" doesn't accomplish anything. Part of the goal of this administration is to create an air of inevitability around their gathering power so that people obey in advance. It makes it a whole lot easier for them to be fascists if they don't have to fight for every scrap of fascism along the way. Don't let them do that. Don't obey in advance.