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[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 25 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (6 children)

The only significantly statically impactful group of "non voters" is the population that was unable to or inconvenienced heavily by voting.

Meaning the major majority of voters that didn't vote were either unable to because of other obligations (work, childcare, etc) with a small subset of that being people that were no motivated enough to deal with the inconvenience of visiting a poll line (4hours in line) after a 10 hour shift.

These are the vast vast majority of people that did not show up. Beyond that an even smaller percentage was the "protest voters' that even if 100% of which went to Harris she still would have lost.

I guess I just want to say "in conclusion" that the vast majority of voters that didn't vote were giving you your Starbucks or your Taco Bell.

I think we should spend less time blaming voters and more time being critical of the politicians and party that gives zero reason for the working class to "risk" their shift for.

No one's gonna "risk a shift" for the policies and messaging that Harris communicated. You don't get people to "risk their shift" for voting for a lesser evil.

[–] ceiphas@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Sometimes i get the feeling that voting on a tuesday is working as expected: to keep working an poor people from voting...

Germany has voting per defintion only on sundays, and (at least where i live) the voting booths are everywhere. You can vote either per mail, or from 8:00 to 18:00 at a booth, and i never had to wait in a line to vote, and i'm in my 40s

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 33 minutes ago

No it's the voters fault. Never forget. \s

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Dw in canada the voter turn out is 18 percent.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I guess I just want to say "in conclusion" that the vast majority of voters that didn't vote were giving you your Starbucks or your Taco Bell.

This is a very clear and succinct description of something I've been struggling to articulate for years. Affluent liberals can tell their boss they're taking a long lunch to vote, and they don't understand why shift workers don't do the same.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I really appreciate your comment, because here we are months later and still a lot of folks don't seem to be getting the big picture.

Maybe they need someone to blame other than the GOP, and folks who didn't vote are the easiest target.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

the population that was unable to or inconvenienced heavily by voting.

Voting early or by mail was available to:

-Alaska
-Arizona
-Arkansas
-California: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Colorado: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-D.C.: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Delaware
-Florida
-Georgia
-Hawaii: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Idaho
-Illinois
-Iowa
-Kansas
-Maine
-Maryland
-Massachusetts
-Michigan
-Minnesota
-Montana
-Nebraska
-Nevada: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-New Jersey
-New Mexico
-New York
-North Carolina
-North Dakota
-Ohio
-Oklahoma
-Oregon: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Pennsylvania
-Rhode Island
-South Dakota
-Utah: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Vermont: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Virginia
-Washington: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Wisconsin
-Wyoming

I'm not saying people don't have tough lives, but it has been made pretty available to a lot of people at this point.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Note that there's some asterisks on there.

Some of those states require you to get your ballot notarized and/or signed by witnesses. Incidentally this opens the door for voter intimidation since your witness is likely to be a spouse.

Also, you have scenarios like NC where they are trying to retroactively toss ballots that were counted, and mail in opens the door for "something wasn't quite proper about the ballot, discard it".

If you absolutely, positively, can not vote in person at all, then try your luck with mail in ballots, but if at all possible vote in person if you want the best chance for your vote to count.

[–] pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 48 minutes ago

I lived in a few different states and I’ve never lived some place where folks didn’t have 30 days to vote early and in person. I’m NOT talking about mail in whatever. 30 days! Just drop by. Not crowded. Not a big deal.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I got a mail in ballot because I knew I wouldn't have time to make it on Voting Day

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Of course, in-person early voting is a safer bet.

Mailing in your ballot puts it at a significantly higher chance of being discarded.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

not everyone lives in that kind of state here in the UnUnited States of America

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

Almost all of us do

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Other countries vote on Sundays, US could do the same.

Also mail in voting exists.

But yes, big brain move to not vote or vote some third party.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Nah bigger brain is telling ppl neo liberalism is better then conseravitsm. "If im poor at least I'm not them". Why you think most of the world is conservative?