pfff... he won twice. if americans would want a real democracy that wouldnt have happened.
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Ah yes there was someone saying 1 in 2 people voted for Trump and yeah nope...
How gross it is, considering what was in the line that so many didn’t vote. Also I bet the duck he cheated.
Those who didn't vote, who thought their vote didn't matter, that no matter which politician gets elected to whatever office.... they're complicit.
I voted, and my vote definitely did not matter. Nor will it until we completely overhaul the election system, getting rid of the electoral college and first past the post. I don't think that's going to happen either until politicians acquire enough fear to offset their greed.
The only significantly statically impactful group of "non voters" is the population that was unable to or inconvenienced heavily by voting.
Meaning the major majority of voters that didn't vote were either unable to because of other obligations (work, childcare, etc) with a small subset of that being people that were no motivated enough to deal with the inconvenience of visiting a poll line (4hours in line) after a 10 hour shift.
These are the vast vast majority of people that did not show up. Beyond that an even smaller percentage was the "protest voters' that even if 100% of which went to Harris she still would have lost.
I guess I just want to say "in conclusion" that the vast majority of voters that didn't vote were giving you your Starbucks or your Taco Bell.
I think we should spend less time blaming voters and more time being critical of the politicians and party that gives zero reason for the working class to "risk" their shift for.
No one's gonna "risk a shift" for the policies and messaging that Harris communicated. You don't get people to "risk their shift" for voting for a lesser evil.
the population that was unable to or inconvenienced heavily by voting.
Voting early or by mail was available to:
-Alaska
-Arizona
-Arkansas
-California: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Colorado: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-D.C.: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Delaware
-Florida
-Georgia
-Hawaii: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Idaho
-Illinois
-Iowa
-Kansas
-Maine
-Maryland
-Massachusetts
-Michigan
-Minnesota
-Montana
-Nebraska
-Nevada: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-New Jersey
-New Mexico
-New York
-North Carolina
-North Dakota
-Ohio
-Oklahoma
-Oregon: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Pennsylvania
-Rhode Island
-South Dakota
-Utah: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Vermont: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Virginia
-Washington: All active, registered voters automatically receive ballot.
-Wisconsin
-Wyoming
I'm not saying people don't have tough lives, but it has been made pretty available to a lot of people at this point.
Sometimes i get the feeling that voting on a tuesday is working as expected: to keep working an poor people from voting...
Germany has voting per defintion only on sundays, and (at least where i live) the voting booths are everywhere. You can vote either per mail, or from 8:00 to 18:00 at a booth, and i never had to wait in a line to vote, and i'm in my 40s
Dw in canada the voter turn out is 18 percent.
I really appreciate your comment, because here we are months later and still a lot of folks don't seem to be getting the big picture.
Maybe they need someone to blame other than the GOP, and folks who didn't vote are the easiest target.
Other countries vote on Sundays, US could do the same.
Also mail in voting exists.
But yes, big brain move to not vote or vote some third party.
Nah bigger brain is telling ppl neo liberalism is better then conseravitsm. "If im poor at least I'm not them". Why you think most of the world is conservative?
I got a mail in ballot because I knew I wouldn't have time to make it on Voting Day
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This and a similar result in last years UK election is why we need to go the Australian route and make voting compulsory.
The UK government won a landslide with just 15% of the electorate actually voting for a Labour MP. But because we have a broken system they have a huge majority.
I believe that people that do not want to vote or do not feel particularly strongly about politics should be free to stay home. They might not know much about politics. Wouldn't you rather have people vote who are actually invested into politics and come to vote because they actually want to? Also, I do not think it is ok to force people to participate in democracy in suvh a manner.
Just because you reckon your party would have won if you forced people to vote, does not mean it should be done.
It's true that mandatory voting nets a lot of low information voters. It also encourages a lot of people to check the major party's policies who otherwise wouldn't bother.
I'm not aware of low information voters swaying the vote one way or another.
By making voting mandatory, it becomes mandatory for everyone to have an opportunity to vote.
In what country do people not have the opportunity to vote? Even if that is the case, why not just make the voting accessible without forcing people to vote?
I just don't see the point.
You don't see the point in telling citizens to take an interest?
Ok mate.
Australian voting isn't just mandatory. It's a two-party preferential system. If you vote for a minor party or independent, your vote ultimately goes toward one of the two largest parties. No vote is a throwaway.
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So 68.1% of the American public are complicit. Worse than I thought TBH. Fuck.
Yeah, no, that's not how that works. We've got the electoral college, remember? There were 20 states that went blue. Any additional votes to Harris in those states wouldn't have made Trump win less, refraining to vote in those states ultimately didn't matter. You need to look at the percentage of people that didn't vote in states that went red. But I get it, its easier to blame everyone who didn't vote than to use critical thought.
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