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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Exactly. Division got us here. Only unity will get us out.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unity centered around what? The party of the less bad? Of the horrible leadership? The party that only does one genocide? The not Trump party? The party of “we will not trash the economy”?

I could get behind that, but this federation has not been a democracy for a while. Not when you need more states won and several would require United Nations observers if they were countries. So, in some places it’s just a lost cause.

People need to be disabused of the notion this is a fair fight won by normal rules. New leadership and splintering is exactly what is needed.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago

Unity centered around what?

Participation. Making things a tiny bit better when possible, and if not that, then minimizing damage.

Making things better nationally is hard. But locally, change can be efffected


my city (San Francisco) has ranked choice voting for local offices. It's awesome, and I vote for who I want first. It's small, but it's a start.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your ignorance knows no bounds. Republicans vote in a block. If we split the left in the midterms, the Republicans will retain control. Simple as that.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t see how my very well known ignorance, and what I said, have anything in common.

I do see hackers disrupting x today. That group, whatever their motives or how well I would like them, is doing more to restore good governance than then the entirety of the Democratic Party, if you look at events today.

What have the democrats done today? Since midnight. Tell me some stuff and I might reconsider my stance

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

INCOMING TRADE OFFER:

You get: slower tweets for maybe a week

They get: removing everybody's social security, dismantling of NATO, end of federal public education funding, 20 Million (conservative estimate) people removed from Medicaid, deportation on basis of ethnicity/heritage


We cannot settle for petty attacks on the state. We need to reclaim the state. Vote blue no matter who, any Democrat is better than any Republican.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They can’t do anything but filibuster in the Senate with congressional minority. The left abandoned them at the polls to prove a point, and are now complaining that they’re ineffective with no control. You need to learn about our governmental structure.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

The left abandoned them

Wait, the whole left? Like a block of people ? No…

I do agree me and others should understand more about government and get involved. More than watching a few old people in capital hill doing some useless motions while the nation goes under .

This will naturally happen if things go as expected, and I probably will not like that answer any more than you

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes, unity. The unity of attacking third parties. Of suing candidates to remove them from the ballot. Of refusing to run a primary to learn the wishes of the party. What great unity. I’ll pass on the party of “nothing will fundamentally change” with your views of “unity” like that.

I agree we need to come together so the left stops losing. But the democrats do not agree with that, and will actively sabotage it as much as possible. And until that changes, we’re fucked. We need a party willing to adapt to the people on the left, not republicans.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you truly expect that to emerge and take hold of majority in two years? That’s very naive.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

Literally just asking the democrats to not attack leftists, and adopt like fucking any popular leftist policies, be open to changing for the better, not simply say “sorry best we can do is trump+1”

Of the people, it’s not a big ask. Sadly the people don’t seem to matter as much as corporations for some weird reason.