this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2023
510 points (94.0% liked)

politics

23281 readers
3093 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] nostalgicgamerz@lemmy.world 202 points 2 years ago

Don’t threaten me with a good time

[–] Akasazh 124 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The idea that he might not is rather off-putting

[–] owlinsight@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This goes to show how hard it is to put a rich white^orange?^ man in prison. The whole system failed at every turn and there's STILL the chance he might become president again...ain't that something?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"may" "might" "could" "soon" "impending" etc...

We've been seeing this for 6 years. At this rate I think it's more likely he 'may' succumb to his decades-long suicide by cheeseburger before he faces any actual consequences for his crimes.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Either way it'll be a good day for the world.

[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Except he's actually on trial now for multiple felonies.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] doc@kbin.social 57 points 2 years ago (16 children)

Click bait. We've heard this for ages. Wake me up when things actually happen, until then stop giving media who keep him front and center the ad clicks.

load more comments (16 replies)
[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Strike a deal?!

You insight violence. You try to take over the Capitol with your army of maggots. You steal nuclear secrets. You are a puppet for Putin and after all that the government is offering up a goddamn deal?!?

He should be stripped of his fancy suit, forced to put on prison orange and his mug shot should be plastered all over the news. There should be no deal for a crime lord. The fact that it might even happen, just proves how much some people in government just don;t get the seriousness of this situation. That entire family needs to be taken down. Start with his kids and finish it by throwing Don into prison for treason. In fact prison is better than traitors deserve.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Law doesn't work like that for the rich.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I hope he gets what he deserves

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] nachobel@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, and I “may win” the lottery.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Seriously. First thing I said when I read that is I hope so.

[–] Vertelleus@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

May the grass on his grave never be able to grow from the amount of people that piss there.

[–] leapingleopard@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The only problem with pissing on Trump's grave is... eventually you run out of piss.

[–] maos@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It's okay, we can make more, it's a simple recipe.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (21 children)

This is such a stupid and irresponsible article.

First, Trump has to be found guilty.

Second, he has to be found guilty before the elections.

Third, he has to lose the election (which is more or less a toss-up), because if he wins the election, he'll pardon himself on all federal charges.

Fourth, even if all of that other shit happens, he has to be ordered to report to jail immediately after sentencing, without waiting for an appeal that will certainly be attempted.

This relies on so many things happening in just the right order that it's functionally speculation.

If Putin "accidentally" hits a NATO target while trying to strike Ukraine, and if NATO responds in kind, and if Putin reacts to NATO's response by launching nuclear weapons, and if NATO countries respond by launching a full-scale nuclear attach on Russia, then the world will have global thermonuclear war and humanity will have solved human-created climate change via nuclear winter! Yeah, it's all possible, but it's not probable.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Let’s throw some more logs on this fire….

Donald Trump has been charged with 37 criminal counts covering seven different violations of federal law

The election is nov 2024

The trial starts in august 2023

There are at least 10 other candidates running for republican

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (20 replies)
[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 26 points 2 years ago

Your terms are acceptable.

[–] Lanfordr@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Since he is an ex-president who is guaranteed a secret service detail for life, isn't he much more likely to be granted house arrest or some other sort of "private" incarceration?

[–] BrandoGil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He is, but also because of age. Judges and juries are very lenient on the elderly when it comes to sentencing due to prison survivability. That said, a deal is guaranteed and leniency isn't, especially when we're likely talking about white collar prison

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

While that's generally true, this case is completely unprecedented. Ex-president charged with stealing top secret documents, obstruction of justice, and who knows what else before we're done.

Not to mention the other indictments he's got coming up for election interference and inciting a coup attempt.

No matter how lenient you may want to be, you absolutely cannot set a precedent that the punishment for attempting a coup of the United States government is... confinement to your luxury resort where you can continue to gin up another coup attempt at your leisure. You have to make an example of him or you just invite a repeat of the same attempt over and over again.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] MonsieurHedge@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

You know, I don't know if I want him dead in prison or squealing like a stuck pig more. I'm inclined towards Team Sellout on an intellectual level, but his corpse slumped in a concrete box has a certain visceral appeal.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who is he going to squeal on? He's the top target.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

"It was all Mike Pence's idea."

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I believe the world doesn't care but everyone wants him gone and away from our lives.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I think that every day until I realize 1/3 of the population would still vote for him without a second thought. It's been far beyond sad and pitiable for years now.

Now it's simply malicious and a direct threat to every single one of our lives. The other 2/3rds need to start treating it as such.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That will be happen because he is in jail, not because he struck a deal. There is no deal to strike at this point on the documents case. He had a chance to give them back.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 years ago

I'll believe it when it happens. Jackass will likely get off with no real repercussion.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I hate myself for what inhuman things I’d be able to morally excuse if they happened to Trump

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

His "prison" will be mar a Lago. They already have a gate and guards.

I don't trust the justice system whatsoever. Jail is for economic dissidents.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Trump for sure would serve his prison sentence in a luxury hotel and find a way to bill the government for it.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I think narcissist always think they're right

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago

Whatever, I want him to die in prison. I would call it a yuge win and I would be dancing in the street. Also the sooner the better.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

He's facing serious federal charges of mishandling highly classified documents that could land him at least a decade in prison, and we're not even talking about the implications of Jan 6th, which he has largely escaped legal responsibility for.

Trump would be wise to strike a plea deal. Imagine an outlandish scenario where the winner of the 2024 US election is incarcerated, which very well could happen because Republican voters are fickle. Trump is still favorite to win the Republican nomination, and I think there are loads more people who don't like Joe Biden.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Spoilers for the hopelessly optimistic:

He won't be dying in prison. In fact it is exceedingly unlikely he will ever even be found guilty of anything that brings more than a stern talking to and a small fine.

We will be lucky if he manages to not win the election at this point.

"Find out " is not something that ever really happens to people that travel in his circles in this country.

You or I? Oh yeah, they would have a place for us right next to the rope they have waiting for Snowden before they got us in the holding cell. The guilty verdict in a trial would be a foregone conclusion. But that doesn't happen to the well to do and connected in the good ole US of A.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Really? With Aileen Cannon on the case, I doubt it. After all we've seen over the past eight years, I've gotta see results before I get excited. The taste of Mueller still weighs heavily on the tongue.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] VARRR6@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
load more comments
view more: next ›