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As Texas Republicans try to muscle a rare mid-decade redistricting bill through the Legislature to help Republicans gain seats in Congress -- at President Donald Trump's request -- residents in Austin, the state capital, could find themselves sharing a district with rural Texans more than 300 miles away.

The proposed map chops up Central Texas' 37th Congressional District, which is currently represented by Democrat Rep. Lloyd Doggett, will be consumed by four neighboring districts, three of which Republicans now hold.

One of those portions of the Austin-area district was drawn to be part of the 11th District that Republican Rep. August Pfluger represents, which stretches into rural Ector County, about 20 miles away from the New Mexico border.

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[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

It's amazing the system has held together for as long as it has.

[–] sdcSpade@lemmy.zip 151 points 5 days ago (15 children)

I will never understand how this obvious manipulation has been legal for decades.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago

The pretense is gone now though, which is fascinating. And scary.

It’s literally just partisan warfare with legal exploitation, and voter bases apparently think it’s justified. I mean, what are they gonna do, side with the other party over it?

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

Money. Every American politician is corrupt as fuck.

[–] ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

when lawmakers break the law and nobody enforces the law, it stops being the law.

[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And so many things were just 'common sense,' and not enshrined in laws because the thought was that anyone breaking them would be held accountable by the populace. We now have a critical mass of stupid, self absorbed, or malicious people that laws don't matter, much less norms.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We also have mechanisms of communication, propaganda, and control that were beyond imagination 249 years ago.

I mean, a second Trump term means that any "but surely they wouldn't accept somebody who-" is out the window. His two impeachments weren't for affairs or for perjury. They were EACH for betraying the damned country in totally different ways.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

We've lived in a fascist country for a long time.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago
[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Federal government won't do anything about it. States control their own elections and therein lies the conundrum. Texas is proving very willingly that it doesn't care about the rules as long as they win.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Won't matter unless the progressives of the state get organized.

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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 211 points 5 days ago (6 children)

This repub regime is really showing us how much our system of government depends on having good-faith actors in (elected) positions of power. There truly are not sufficient checks in place to protect against one election's worth of bad actors.

Kind of amazing that this all worked for about 250 years, and heartbreaking that it could crumble in the next 2.5.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 102 points 5 days ago (1 children)

worked for about 250 years for a select group of people only

didn't work for the native americans, slaves, poor people, etcetera

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Things have improved for those groups over time, notably. We took a shit system and tried to make it represent all of us.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.cafe 5 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Arguable that things have improved for poor people in the last 50 years. In relative terms they are objectively far worse off. And native Americans were arguably better off in the early colonial days pre-manifest destiny. I know US liberalism loves the myth of linear progress. But I think it isn’t necessarily accurate.

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[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 46 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Apologies if I misunderstood the american election system, but the fact that for the past 100+ years you've had a bipartisan system in which both parties pander to the wealthy tell me it hasn't really worked. Or rather only worked for the ruling elite.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The system has basically always been two-party. It's the only stable arrangement for FPtP voting anyway. So, yes, it has been status quo for 250 years.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

For about 200 years, a candidates morality was an important factor, now we apparently don't care, especially the MAGAs.

[–] subarctictundra@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Even strong checks can't hold back bad faith actors indefinitely

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[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Get rid of districts and fill Congress through proportional representation. That solves so many problems.

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[–] Empricorn 11 points 3 days ago

A quick reminder that gerrymandering, the unethical process where politicians choose their voters (instead of the other way around), is not legal in any other western democracy. It's runaway corruption, shouldn't exist, and needs to be publishable by jail time...

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 92 points 5 days ago (3 children)

These assholes are going to make violent revolution inevitable. Why they think they will survive that revolution is a mystery.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 54 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because they think they have the vast majority of those institutions with the ability to inflict violence on their side.

And from where I'm sitting, it looks like they're right

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh there is no doubt they have a monopoly on violence, but America has more guns than people and virtually no mental health care so..............

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So...those with a monopoly on violence will use it ruthlessly against any disorganised violence. Have a look at Stalin's Russia, Hitler's Germany and Pol Pot's Cambodia.

The only way individual citizens with small arms will have any impact on organised groups with automatic weapons, armoured vehicles artillery and air support is if they one get seriously organised in an underground fashion and two convert some of the military groups to their side.

If they don't do both those it'll just be massacres and wholesale internment in concentration camps. The MSM have already shown they're happy to whitewash whats going on, so you'll never hear about the majority of extra-judicial killings until years later if ever.

The US has about 3 months left to raise a serious resistance, otherwise the show is over and the fat lady is singing.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 68 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Ranked choice

Popular vote

All this goes away.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Gerrymandering can still be effective with ranked choice. It's harder, but you can still do both cracking and packing, you just have to model top-2 or top-3 preferences.

Popular vote is already the norm for gerrymandered areas.

I mean we should definitely implement Ranked Choice up and down the ticket, and implement Popular Vote for President, but neither actually solves Gerrymandering.

I'd like to say "independent" redistricting organizations are the solution, but the practical success of those is mixed. The incumbents just pack those with cronies, or ignore them, sometimes with the assistance of the judiciary.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 47 points 5 days ago (13 children)

The worst part is that democrats will fight back by gerrymandering harder, and it just won't be as effective because gerrymandering always benefits the person behind. If democrats had an ounce of intelligence, they would be fighting for standard algorithms to manage redistricting. If it was federal law to minimize district perimeters, this whole nonsense would end.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago

If democrats had an ounce of intelligence, they would be fighting for standard algorithms to manage redistricting.

The problem with that is they would need to regain power to be able to fix anything. But that would also assume they did, in fact, have the intelligence to fix problems while in power. Unfortunately, the reason the fascists are fighting so hard to dismantle democracy is to ensure that they can never lose power again despite their growing unpopularity.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It’s a bit more complex than that—if you create districts on a purely geographic basis (like minimizing district perimeters), you usually amplify slight majorities into disproportionately large ones (e.g., a 55% demographic majority translating to a 90% legislative majority). An algorithm that tries to create districts that proportionally translate demographics to representation usually ends up with district boundaries that superficially resemble gerrymandered ones.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 10 points 5 days ago

I think this is an important point that https://bdistricting.com/2020/ glosses over. Some of the representation "guarantees" that were part of the VRA are actually defeated by doing purely geographic districting. Oft-times there's enough BIPOC population that's widely distributed, but needs to be "packed" (to use the gerrymandering terminology) in order to given even a chance of proportional representation.

My state of Arkansas is a good example https://bdistricting.com/2020/AR_Congress/ BIPOC is >= 25% of the population, but to get a distract that was 50% BIPOC it would have to snake across the state in a way that would be very visually similar to a gerrymandered district.

Multi-member districts can help, but they cause a loss of representation locality.

It may be that it's impossible to produce an algorithm that satisfies all our (collective) fairness constraints.

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[–] dion_starfire@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

Except we're talking about Texas, where Democrats have never held enough power to do any significant gerrymandering. Assuming you're acting in good faith and not just a bot, is it possible that you're failing into the trap of assuming that because one of the most heavily gerrymandered districts (Texas 35th) is blue that Democrats did the gerrymandering?

They didn't. Republicans did, to pack as many blue votes into a single district as possible so multiple others around it could be red. If the districts were drawn fairly, the thin corridor connecting Austin and San Antonio would be red, and multiple districts above and below that corridor would be blue.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 52 points 5 days ago

If you can't win, cheat. It's the official slogan of conservatives worldwide.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 5 days ago

"Why should I have to pay taxes for roads and schools in Austin when I live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere by choice?"

-Desired Outcome

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 16 points 5 days ago

Republicans are cheating scum.

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