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Yep. They have it backwards. UK is next... in maybe a decade. Could be longer.

The idea that America EVER had free fucking speech is propaganda. There is no such thing, not in the US and not anywhere. Nations have to control their propaganda or they lose their power. Want an example? Just log into your favorite feed-site in another country and look how radically different every post, every comment and every news story is. Our perspective in the US is as cultivated as it is anywhere else.

The only way we would ever have truly free speech in any capacity would be if we had a borderless world, and I don't see that happening as long as we have money and classes.

Short of some alien species descending and absorbing everyone into a hive-mind, this isn't going to change for a thousand years at least.

For real. The shell shock of working all your life to move to these once idyllic looking countries has been about as quickly and bizarrely dismantled near overnight in the same vein as the 2008 market crash impacting an entire generation's outlook on their career prospects.

Basically, if you were born in the 90s/00s, your future is fucked no matter what you choose to pursue or where you move to. Even people working at NASA are being fucked over as we speak. We're in war times.

what's happening is our current system right now is in the process of failing. it's dying, it didn't work and it can no longer sustain itself. Someone once said something along the lines of "When the current system fails, the next one will consist of whatever ideas are left"

So what ideas are left? the ideas of the far right, just like far right ideas are ALWAYS left when a system is about to die. So all these governments, all these wealthy individuals, all these people that have the most to gain are are going start backing the new up coming system. We're seeing it in real time.

But this has happened time and time again. We're a collectively dumb species and love watching repeats. it's always the same song and dance "well lets go this way, sure it didn't work out last time but I don't believe it'll happen to us THIS time".

So it's not so much "what the fuck is this timeline" but rather "well it's our generations turn for bullshit". And it always skips a generation. So the boomers didn't experience it, but their parents did, and now it's our turn. Hopefully our children or our Kids children will be smarter than boomers but...we as humans sure do love watching reruns.

As someone still in Russia, a bit of the same.

That is, I expected things to get worse, but not "avalanche of shit, cockroaches and rat bones" levels of worse.

Except the idolization part started receding much earlier, when I actually learned English well enough to understand that these are very intolerant societies. Say, where in Russia people disagreeing with you on some key matters would look at you like a fool or just decide to stop this conversation so that neither of you would offend the other, in English-speaking countries, it seems, there was simply no way to survive outside of some echo chamber and God forbid you find none to fit into. But that was like 10-15 years ago, now, of course, in Russia you can get jailed or strongly fined for words.

But I thought there's some deeper wisdom and in those harsher societies people are also somehow better capable to maintain their common freedom and dignity yadda-yadda. In fact that's not what I see.

As a bit of gloating - at least now the "why are you not all revolting against Putin" Western types can be answered with their own regrettable example instead of common sense and logic, these are fine, but an example is more efficient.

And then there’s Visa and MasterCard telling you what you can and can’t purchase because some conservative cesspool wrote some emails

They didn't just write emails, they actually picked up the phone and called them, non stop. They made it into a problem that couldn't be ignored. Gamers haven't done that, unfortunately.

There's always Canada, a similarly large yet sparsely populated land with awful winters and bad food, you'll fit right in.

Sweden teaches its kids English first now. You'll be fine.

As someone who immigrated to the UK I can tell you this is a bit of a stretch. I'm not exactly afraid of dying in a hate crime at a traffic stop or ICE agents beating down my door to detain me here.

But yeah, some internet liberties are being steadily revoked. Hardly the same fucking thing as literally fearing for your life each day because of your last name or the color of your skin.

We have been on the same track in many respects since Reagan/Thatcher.

You mean the Republican party? At this point I'm convinced their voter based would elect a serial killer so long as they said they were Republican.

Irony is truly lost on this platform

They are paving the way for feudalism to replace liberal democracies,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

If you're wealthy enough, you can do whatever you want.

Freedom™

Well US free speech is telling lies and misleading millions of people on broadcast television.

If you could project into the future, you might see that VPNs are a dwindling non-solution to the problem. As this unsettling trend makes waves across all jurisdictions in the world, every VPN's IP will be subject to these new controls.* Eventually normies might need to understand technologies like Tor or I2P. Only problem is, if things get really bad they might ban the use of both outright. I'm not sure if I2P can be detected just as Tor, but I do know Tor users can be detected easily. Which is why if you're in a "censorship" country you need to use some sort of special subset of entry guards. I2P might be better because every node in the network is like a router, none are specifically entry, middle, or exit nodes. Only thing I could think of, maybe some form of deep packet inspection? If everybody runs an I2P router, then simply making requests to other nodes is not enough to determine it's an i2p communication?* It's just distributed computing, the way the internet was intended!

Many people seem to ignore that british legislation is choke full of gag laws and restrictions on pretty fundamental rights.