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I read the first 3 Dune books after seeing the movie and hearing about the challenges of getting that story on the screen. Love the first 2, the ending of the 3rd was ok.

I’m 3/4ths through the 4th and final Hyperion books. Absolutely incredible, I’m disappointed knowing I’ll be done with it soon. I highly recommend it if you’re at all curious. The author does an excellent job sneaking deep references into the colorful narrative; Keats and Ancient Greek mythology among them. The characters are vivid, varied, and somehow all relatable.

When I was younger I liked Vonnegut, specifically Galapagos, cats cradle, and slaughter house 5. I recently read Philip K Dicks “do androids… electric sheep” and wasn’t a fan. I loved the film blade runner, but the book kind of trudged on for me with, what I felt was, a let down of an ending. Asimov’s foundation was ok, but it lacked action and the characters seemed thin; I do like the concept a lot, it was just missing something for me.

So what’s next? I read a few classics in school and wasn’t terribly moved by most of them. I’ve considered giving Philip K Dick another chance, and possibly exploring the Dune books not authored by Herbert. I’m not a big fan of fantasy- at least in the horse riding, sword wielding, magic and sorcery vein.

Thanks for any suggestions

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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Roadside Picnic is awesome. It inspired the film stalker. I loved it.

[–] PillowD@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

While nothing like Dan Simmons, The Three Body Problem is the only one that has knocked my socks off in the last 10 years. If you want to stick with Simmons I recommend Song of Kali.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

You read the expanse series?

[–] Fluid@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago

The second Hyperion book. Immediately followed by Consider Phlebas by Iain Banks. It has the same approachable writing style, doesn't overstay it's welcome, has similar deliciously out-there sci-fi, and I think may also be inspired by touchstone poetry.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)
  • Octavia Butler
  • Ursula K Le Guin

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[–] magusfungus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Immediately thought about Le Guin. Probably my all time favourite author. So many great novels and short story collections to choose from. Even her YA novels are thoughtful, wise and the prose is pretty much flawless. OP, let me know what you're in the mood for and I'll recommend a few books.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Did you read The Word for World is Forest?

Cuz damn_son.jxl

Edit: I haven't read all of it (i.e., all of her work), but I think The Left Hand of Darkness is my favorite, if I had to pick

[–] magusfungus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yes. Both are brilliant and although I'm not sure, I feel like the former had a big influence on Cameron's Avatar (much more so than Pocahontas tbh). Hard to pick a favourite but I really like the Western shore trilogy.

[–] MagnumDovetails@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I’ve heard of Le Guin, thanks for the recommendations

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Dispossessed is a really interesting look at anarchism in practice

Also may I recommend the Culture series by Iain M Banks.

[–] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

People, please. Don't sleep on Butler either. A truly visionary artist. She's incredible. I hate how late in life I heard of her. Genuinely alien aliens. And she cooked up Make America Great Again for her neofascist fiction party decades before their lizard brains could copy it. It's literally in the books. She predicted the future with basically 100% accuracy. The series is Earthseed.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I recommend you start with the Hainish series's trilogy (Rocannon's world, planet of exile, and city of illusions). The Left Hand of Darkness is better, and it doesn't require any of them, but those books will do a lot of world building so you can just focus on the story rather than ask what the hell the Ekumen is.

City of illusions is also just hard-core payoff and that made it really interesting

[–] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Maybe Iain M. Banks' Culture series, if you're not familiar with his work already. The books are generally standalobe stories, but there are some recurring side characters and references to earlier books. Consider Phlebas is the first one I think.

[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly, I tell people to pass on Consider Phlebas a lot of the time. The first book is worth reading, but The Player of Games is a much better book and is a better introduction to the series.

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[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 6 points 2 days ago

Ursula K. LeGuin's Always Coming Home is an intriguing approach to novel writing. Some can't get into it because it looks more like an ethnologist's report, but there is a story there (and I don't mean the segments with Stone Telling: the entire novel has a story that rewards those who pay attention).

[–] wer2@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Book of the New Sun (really 4 books) gave me the feeling of reading Dune, Hyperion, and Lord of the Rings kind of wrapped into one.

I would also recommend the 4th Dune book (God Emporor), as it wraps up where the first 3 books were going with the Golden Path. After that, he starts a new trilogy, which doesn't get finished, so results may vary.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Second The Book Of The New Sun - it’s dense and really rewards re-reading.

There’s also the Urth Of The New Sun, which sort-of concludes the story.

[–] wer2@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I liked Urth of the New Sun, but I can also see why it is separate from the others. For me it felt like a step back for the main character.

[–] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I second the finishing of the quatrology. I think one could stop at the first book, maybe even the second, but if you're in for the third you should be in for the fourth.

[–] SoftNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Very surprised I haven't seen Red Rising mentioned.

[–] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I suggest the Commonwealth's saga by Peter F. Hamilton (Pandora's star, Judas unchained).

[–] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Been on a Peter Hamilton binge since I started Pandora's Star about 4 months ago, and have since gone through all 7 of the Commonwealth books (Commonwealth duology, Void trilogy, and Chronicles of the Fallers duology) Exodus: Archimedes Engine, and am almost done book 1 of the Salvation trilogy.

So far my favourite is probably the Commonwealth duology, followed by Exodus. All of the books I've read have been amazing IMO, this is the first time I've read based solely off the author rather than recommendations. He can be pretty horny at times which is the main thing about his books that annoy me, but the world building is top tier IMO and the ideas he presents are fascinating.

Highly recommend giving the Commonwealth duology a try, it's a bit slow going at first but once it gets going, I found it hard to stop. Amazing books.

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[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I fucking did not like that book. I did not like any of the characters. Grrrr to that book. That is all. I guess in saying I wouldn't go more Hyperion. Do Revelation Space Series. Much better.

[–] gazter@aussie.zone 6 points 3 days ago

I'm with you. I was pretty close to giving up on it several times, but slugged through it at first because so many people said it was so great, and then because the next book was meant to be better, and then because I was over halfway so I may as well finish it. I wish I hadn't.

I felt the Culture books by Iain Banks were a similar tone and style, but I found them much more enjoyable.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I gave Hyperion about 200 pages and they were STILL world building and offering leading secrets the author didn't think the reader needed to know. So I just gave up.

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[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah revelation space is what I'm reading now. The series is great

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If you're into a rich narrative and deep references, don't miss Cryptononicon and the whole Baroque cycle by Neal Stephenson.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Blindsight by Peter watts.

Now some half-derelict space probe, sparking fitfully past Neptune’s orbit, hears a whisper from the edge of the solar system: a faint signal sweeping the cosmos like a lighthouse beam. Whatever’s out there isn’t talking to us. It’s talking to some distant star, perhaps. Or perhaps to something closer, something en route.

So who do you send to force introductions on an intelligence with motives unknown, maybe unknowable? Who do you send to meet the alien when the alien doesn’t want to meet?

You send a linguist with multiple personalities, her brain surgically partitioned into separate, sentient processing cores. You send a biologist so radically interfaced with machinery that he sees X-rays and tastes ultrasound, so compromised by grafts and splices he no longer feels his own flesh. You send a pacifist warrior in the faint hope she won’t be needed, and a fainter hope she’ll do any good if she is needed. You send a monster to command them all, an extinct hominid predator once called “vampire,” recalled from the grave with the voodoo of recombinant genetics and the blood of sociopaths. And you send a synthesist – an informational topologist with half his mind gone – as an interface between here and there, a conduit through which the Dead Center might hope to understand the Bleeding Edge.

Blindsight is the ability of people who are cortically blind to respond to visual stimuli that they do not consciously see due to lesions in the primary visual cortex, also known as the striate cortex or Brodmann Area 17. --Wikipedia

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[–] waxy@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds. If you like it (and I think you will) there are more in the series.

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[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I wouldn't recommend Anderson Dune books.

Pohl has some classics Heechee Saga Space Merchants Man Plus

Ringworld

Vernor Vinge: Fire Upon the Deep

John Scalzi: Old Mans War Series

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Wraeththu Chronicles by Storm Constantine.

[–] Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Simmons' books "Illum" and "Odessey" are pretty great and feel like the same universe

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I second these if you want more Simmons.

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[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If you're wanting a break from the serious sci-fi, take a look at Expeditionary Force, it's hilarious.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Some of my suggestions:

  • Forever War - due to time dilation this story follows combatants that spend decades at war while on earth hundreds of years pass (inspired by the Vietnam War).
  • Stanger in a Strange Land - Story of a human raised by Martians coming to earth. Has similar religious notes as dune and hyperion, but also has a weird Ayn Rand vibe (in my opinion, also not necessarily in a bad way).
[–] eightpix@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Forever War is such an important and great read. I'd put it alongside Catch-22 and Johnny Got His Gun for an anti-war novel.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I didn't really like the Hyperion series much myself, but both Dune and Hyperion are sci-fi with religious elements. Maybe A Canticle for Leibowitz.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is fine, but it's not Bladerunner so yeah it might be jarring. It's also not even close to his best work imo.

Some of my favorite Dick novels: The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and A Scanner Darkly. I think those are his two best imo. The Man in the High Castle is pretty good, but not at all indicative of his other work.

Now Wait for Last Year, and Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said, are also pretty good. I liked what I read of UBIK, but didn't finish it. I have a friend that swears by it though.

Some people swear by his latter stuff (e.g. VALIS), but I was never able to get into it. You can kind of see his mind starting to slip as you read his stuff (which leads to some incredibly mind bending shit in his early-mid works), and by the end, it's kind of nonsensical imo.

It's kind of tragic to read about his life at the time he was writing. The afterword of A Scanner Darkly goes into some detail, including listing the names of friends that "didn't make it" (usually due to drugs). Later, during the VALIS years, he was having full-own psychotic breaks and hallucinatory events where he thought he was Thomas from the Bible, living in ancient Rome or some shit. And his writing started to reflect all of this.

I've only read the first Hyperion book (and fucking loved it), but keep in mind, Dick wrote a different kind of sci-fi that was more about exploring consciousness, existence, the concept of self, psychedelic drugs, etc. as opposed writing space epics or whatever. Not to say that they don't sometimes take place in space, but just don't expect the kind of grand narratives you're gonna get with someone like Asimov. Completely different type of sci-fi.

That said, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch is his hidden gem imo. If you know, you know.

[–] Rhaxapopouetl@ttrpg.network 7 points 3 days ago

Give Philip K Dick a chance: Start with 'Ubik'. I think we all need a little bit of Dick in our lives, to broaden our horizons.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Haven't seen these mentioned here, but the "Old Man's War" series by John Scalzi is great as are "The Expanse" books by James SA Corey. I'd highly recommend those to anyone, but especially those looking for grounded and hard-ish sci-fi that doesn't lose the reader or become overly technical.

I highly highly recommend Old Man's War to anyone looking to get into sci-fi novels for the first time, Scalzi really takes care of his reader and his writing is a delight. The Expanse books are awesome whether or not you've seen the TV series... the show runners really took care with the source material and, ask any fan of the books, it is a great adaptation. The show hits the same plot points of the books while getting there in new and interesting ways. Further, the show created a new character in Kamina Drummer who immediately became a fan favorite of both show and book lovers (she's an amalgamation of a couple of book characters and becomes her own thing that really adds SO much to the story and world building).

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[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you're looking for something epic but self-contained I really liked "Seveneves" by Neal Stephenson. If you want something that's got a similar level of art to Hyperion I'd suggest "This is How You Lose the Time War" by Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone

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[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

A lot of good recommendations already but here are some I didn't see.

The Madness Season. Follows a vampire secretly living among humans after a alien race with a hive mind conqueres Earth.

Eight Worlds series by John Varley. Aliens with reality warping powers show up and kick humanity off Earth and Jupiter. Humanity has now colonized all the other planets. People and society have evolved in strange ways.

The Final Architecture. giant aliens sometimes show up and reshape planets with life into giant sculptures.

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