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Having fucked up social discourse with Twitter and then Bluesky, Jack Dorsey claims he has seen the error of his ways, and definitely won't do it a third time with his new nonprofit aimed at helping developers build and deploy (OSS or commercial) social media tech built on the Nostr platform (with AI!). Yeesh, I might be biased. Maybe I shouldn't be writing these summaries.

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[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 day ago

Mel Gibson-looking ass

[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At a certain point, people stop telling you “no” and then you end up with a gold nose ring and hippie beard. Dorsey probably hasn’t heard a “no” since 2006

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Me reading this with a gold nose ring 😅

[–] knightly@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Me reading this with a hippie beard.

[–] UnknownSoul@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago

Me reading this not having heard a "no" since 2006.

[–] fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

If you tell that that's a hippie beard in my local metal bar... You might be politely corrected because we are awesome.

Also, punks and metalheads get beards and rings too.

[–] ileftreddit@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes they do but ‘ol Jackie boy looks neither punk nor metal in this photo. He looks like a douchebag

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Is it because of the Mel Gibson cosplay?

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Like it or not, Nostr is the only one that doesn't tie my identity to a server. I've lost several Lemmy accounts during the Reddit migration and I've had to subscribe to new instances all over again. Once it's down, really hard to migrate anything

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago

This is the advantage of decentralization over federation. IMHO the fact that Lemmy is only federated really hurts it. Not so much for user accounts (in theory these can be backed up restored and moved. Not ideal but not awful) but in that communities are tied to servers. When the server a community is on goes away it is hugely damaging to that community.

[–] sk@utsukta.org 4 points 1 day ago

Hubzilla has successfully implemented portable identities for a number of years and i am surprised how its unheard of. Coupled with magic sign-on it has some of the craziest features that are much needed in the broader fediverse.

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Dear Jack:

Please go back to playing with Square and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

Thanks.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jack Dorsey should just fucking stop.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why is he so hated here? Twitter model is one thing that is kinda fit for global-open-decentralized approaches without much difference for the user. I could never use it, but plenty of people do and seem to have a feeling of hivemind over it.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Because the tech he makes is inherently terrible and despite being used in a positive way it is still centralized and ripe for misuse by people like Musk. On top of that the long term feasibility is based on advertising potential to get the funding.

He says positive stuff most of the time but his actions are the opposite. Blusky is supposed to be decentralized, but the structure as it exists requires it to actually be centralized when implemented. Plus his most recent 'secure' thing wasn't even tested for security issues because he is a hype man who constantly lies.

[–] ag10n@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Figure head syndrome. Literally a man with money, otherwise completely unremarkable

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is "better than Zuck" a valid argument?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not really, I have stepped in dogshit was better than Zuck.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like nonprofit should come with default quotations nowadays. At this point it's just a way to avoid taxation during development until you have a feasible route to profitability.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

don't you avoid taxes anyway if you're not profitable?

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, you still end up paying state and local taxes. Income/revenue is different than profit.

Plus, being a non profit allows for people like Jack to utilize donations as tax deductions.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

We need stronger rules for non profits then.

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Looks like he and Zuck have the same stylist. Anyone know what this look is called, with the oversized tee and chain around his neck?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 14 hours ago

the “i dress myself and everyone around me is too afraid to tell me it looks like shit”?

[–] vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 1 day ago

The word you’re looking for is douchebag

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

He looks like he’s turning into Mel Gibson.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But techbro 10 years ago was an undercut and a leather jacket. I'm hoping there's a label for this iteration.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Those were the web-techbros. Then came the crypto-techbros, now we have AI-techbros. Very different styles, as you can see.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

All styles have some variation within them.

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

Techno King Asshole. TKA for short.

[–] Philamand@jlai.lu 14 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the article, it was an interesting read. I don't think he'll make anything better than Mastodon or even Bluesky so I won't try Nostr, but I'll keep an eye on it. It may be interesting to follow.

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm out of the loop, what went wrong with Bluesky?

[–] majster@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago

It's so "decentralized" that political activists from authoritarian countries get deplatformed on request of the government.

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 16 points 1 day ago

He doesn't like it because it's the same as twitter according to him.

Journalists don't like it because they get called out on bullshit there.

jack hates trans ppl and trans ppl made bluesky what it is.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm not sure he's the one who fucked it up.

140 symbols and the whole atmosphere I don't like, but I have my own fair set of disorders.

Hashtags are honestly a good idea, just like a social system organized around them.

Except I probably would prefer that to be similar to modernized Usenet. Actually going to pressure my family members to install Briar, want to start using it, and apparently it has such a functionality. Not sure yet. Anyway, the framework under it (right now Briar itself is the only application, but authors have ambitions) definitely would support such a thing. Maybe I'll finally have an incentive to learn Android development.

[–] monogram 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Good luck if someone picks an iPhone.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I dunno, Java to native code compilers exist. Maybe one can compile Bramble into that with some interface wrapper, and then use it under iOS, but I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

[–] artifex@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I kinda agree Twitter was born of a more innocent age, and he was just a tech kid with a good enough pitch to get Silicon Valley VC. The problem is that he did little to rein in powers that were purposely using the platform for social manipulation. Then -- when he already knew better -- he went and started Bluesky, which he specifically said was going to counteract all of Twitter's deficiencies, but capitalism got the better of him, so to make the platform attractive to VCs, advertisers, whatever, his team started to ditch what made Bluesky unique in favor of business tools to help it make money. Business is gonna business, it's not 100% his fault, but I can't imagine what will change a 3rd time around.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well, that Bitchat thing of his may (after, eh, fixing a lot of it) turn to be not so bad.

Though I went to the Briar site, and apparently it's not just Briar, but also a framework for virtually everything communications-wise offline-enabled.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What are the differences between Nostr, AT Protocol and ActivityPub?

[–] artifex@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think the main one is that Nostr is supposed to be really simple, and derive some security/privacy from that simplicity. Whereas ATProto and ActivityPub store and forward content so that each rely has a copy, on Nostr nodes the messages are all ephemeral. So it has something of a following with crypto bros and privacy enthusiasts. With nostr IDs are also based on public/private keys unlike ATProto/ActivityPub that use a username@instancename scheme, so signing and identifying content that belongs to a user is easier and more guaranteed to be correct, and your username isn't tied to any specific server "instance"

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

That's more complicated than a short comment can summarize