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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 11 hours ago

It's a automated test to see if you will log in to Google or if you walk away.

This is why it's so inconsistent... It's only sometimes, it changes if you change browsers or vpn endpoints. They make money from logged out users, so they are testing to see if they can push users into logging in without losing money.

[–] slyka@pawb.fun 84 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turning a CD into the equivalent of a vynil. Now that's something I never expected. Looks like a CD could fit maybe 3 tracks?

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[–] rdri@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Our community is so delicate. It could die if they see a bot watching a video.

[–] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

AI bots that are not google's. They want exclusive ownership of juicy training data.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

That doesn't make sense though, since they can just create a bunch of free accounts for the bots to use.

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You use a VPN? This pops up when my VPN is on.

[–] frittoBee@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

No I don't use a VPN

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

If you're in a VPN, this might be the cause

ThIs HeLpS pRoTeCt OuR cOmMuNiTy!!!!

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Youtube is not a 'community.' Fuck youtube.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it is a community. It's just that they're lying that this is protecting it.

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[–] tungsten5@lemmy.zip 7 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Ive been seriously considering just deleting youtube and using nebula in place of youtube. Im just not sure if the subscription is worth it. I love the idea of no ads, supporting the creators directly, and not supporting google. Has anyone here tried nebula? Would love to hear your thoughts

[–] frittoBee@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

I tried Nebula for a while and as the others said, it is worth it, but not enough to replace YouTube for me.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

I spent a year with it, it wasn't enough to completely replace youtube but if you have the money I definitely felt it was worth it. I only let it run out for money reasons

[–] ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml 4 points 22 hours ago

Great platform with a ton of amazing creators. Definitely worth a subscription, but not a full replacement for yt. Revanced can at least get rid of the ads/improve ux.

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[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Google is on an enshittification speed-run. Close-source Android, combine with ChromeOS. Advertise the crap out of YouTube, draconian login requirements. Wherever their income is coming from now, it isn't from making products users want. Probably the military "AI" overseas contracts.

I've been de-Googling the last few years casually as functional replacements came along and I'm down to threads now, but the icing on the cake was their injecting an ad into a funeral ceremony stream from a church on YouTube. Sure, software-side, we all know why it happened, but just. No.

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[–] KevinRunforrest@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Or grayjay.app

[–] descartador@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

What will it take to make PeerTube relevant enough that people will creat content and follow creatos on the fediverse?

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Most "non tech-savvy" people I've tried to explain the concept of open source software and initiatives like the Fediverse to just outright don't trust them. Whilst they might say they'd prefer for software and services to not track or manipulate them if you asked them directly, they can't truly conceive of tech that doesn't.

The only interactions these people have had with the digital world have been as part of the modern data scraping hellscape that was once termed "Web 2.0" after the internet went mainstream in the '00s. They weren't part of the internet when it was a niche interest and more open, so they know no better and accept that predatory behaviour as the way of things.

I'm not an expert in psychology but I don't think it's overly dramatic to say it puts me in mind of those poor individuals who were abused as children, never received therapy and go on to seek out other abusers in adulthood.

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 6 points 20 hours ago

The masses don't know how to search for information anymore. Not only that, but they are unable to do so with the disparity of their understanding of the search engines and the current state of search engines. People are used to being fed information through an algorithm, and those who control the algorithm aren't about to promote a competitor that'd take away their money.

[–] frittoBee@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Is it possible for creators to earn money on PeerTube? If not, maybe that's what's holding a lot of them back. And of course the fact that most people don't know what PeerTube is. It should be easily accessible for everyone and have some kind of system to give the creators money. And make the switch from YouTube easy.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Most creators on YouTube make their main money from patreon/merch anyway. No reason you can't do that on peertube.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

Making money on merch/patreon can only happen once your channel is established though. Until then, YouTube creators are dependent on ad revenue to keep them going, and probably operate at a loss until they reach the point where they can supplement that ad revenue. Trying to get yourself established on a platform that doesn't offer any ad revenue is a much harder sell.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

As much as I like federation, stuff like nebula seems like a better solution.

[–] descartador@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The issue is that nebula doesn't offer the community aspect that YouTube offers

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Start randomly insulting eachother and gaslight one another in comment sections. You'll build up the hate in no time at all.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

I'm pretty sure they don't let just anyone on Nebula, which is a big part of the problem. Absolutely anyone can upload content to YouTube.

[–] descartador@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 18 hours ago

It's not about the comments, it's more about the creators creating the youtubesphere

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Yeah I have a subscription there. I recommend it.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Accessibility, usability, scalability at very, very large scale, actual searchability, and actual return on investment, because some people actually get money from youtube?

Actually, peertube, depending on the instance and the popularity of the content, can be incredibly frustrating for a viewer. And it can be frustrating to the content creator. Some people are quick to dismiss minor (and less minor) annoyances, are able to look for fixes, and so on, but for almost everyone? The experience is nightmareish, with incertain returns (or no returns at all, as it stands).

Once you fix all that, you might have a chance to convince larger entities to move to peertube. Well, more realistically, to host their own instance. Well, more realistically, to host multiple instances, because really some people would hammer the platform down with each video. See the issue yet?

[–] descartador@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I agree, but I didn't really get the last point about hammering the platform.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Peer to peer viewing can only go so far. Some people, when they put a video out, get hundred of thousands of view in the span of a few minutes. This works relatively well on youtube, with a very large CDN (and probably some heuristics for big accounts). It is enough to hinder "smaller" platforms like dailymotion. It would just be a terrible experience on peertube as it is now, unless the creator preemptively mirrored it in many, many places beforehand.

[–] descartador@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 15 hours ago

Maybe the peer to peer aspect of it could sustain big amounts of viewers

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[–] dsilverz@calckey.world 3 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

@frittoBee@lemmy.world !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
IMHO, it's better to boycott and abandon Youtube (and other mainstream platforms) altogether, either prioritizing open alternatives (PeerTube) and/or prioritizing the consumption (and production) of static content (text and images).

Regarding the open alternatives, it baffles me how Fediverse users often can recall of Invidious (and other workarounds) but can't recall of a Fediverse platform, even when there are many PeerTube instances available out there, both general-purpose and niche instances.

Alongside the adoption of PeerTube and other open alternatives, the abandonment or de-prioritization of video formats is also interesting as a mentally-healthy option because video can't help but deceive our brains into perceiving "something" that isn't there (to better understand this, I recommend the René Magritte's art "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" a.k.a. "The Treachery of Images", as well as the René Descartes's philosophy on the human senses). To make matters worse, YT and other corp video platforms are dopaminergic casinos, trapping users inside an ouroboric addiction of video feeds while creating the illusion of parasocial relationships (i.e. as if the gazillion-subscribers "influencer" were a personal friend/colleague/lover, when they're not: each user is just another bitstream they both think they "see" amidst an unstoppable digital rain generated by a grid of three LEDs tailored to deceive our trio of retinal cones... but, well, this is a very bleak and digressing statement of mine).

Personally, It's been a long while since I stopped accessing YouTube/TikTok videos. I used to publish my own videos, I used to be subscribed to hundreds of "channels" and I was even a paid "member" to specific YT channels. I abandoned it all and I rarely put myself into watching videos.

Yes, there's a myriad of knowledge and content available only in motion picture format, and there is also the kind of knowledge that cannot be written as text or represented as a static image, and this is where open video platforms can thrive, but people, especially us Fediverse users, should advocate more for these alternatives such as PeerTube.

Of course, even PeerTube doesn't solve the fact of how video unfortunately are perfect smoke-and-mirrors deceiving our naïve biological senses and making us overly used to fast and/or shallow content as we lose our own ability to read and write deep and lengthy texts such as this one. At the end of the day, humans are gradually ceding the ability to write, once extremely valued and valuable among humans, to Markov chain algorithms (a.k.a. LLMs), in part due to us getting more and more used to media formats. But, at least, PeerTube doesn't try to trap us into an endless feed and doesn't try to extort us or sell our personal data to countless partners/sponsors, so it's way better than YouTube or any workarounds to continue accessing the Google's dopaminergic casino.

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[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 176 points 1 day ago (4 children)

LMAO at the irony of YouTube taking a stand against bot scraping as if that isn't Google's entire business model.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

And every comment section on YouTube being filled with bots, tons of channels run only with AI etc.

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[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This helps protect our community.

I hate when companies lie to my face. Watching a video anonymously is not harming anyone except maybe a fraction of a cent of cost to Google. If I was posting a comment or something maybe, but oh, you already need to be logged in for that.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes. It's been this way for about a year now.

Fucking sucks. I used to enjoy looking at YouTube while signed out so that I could see new content that my algorithm refuses to show me. Now I can't.

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