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Kilmar Abrego Garcia said he suffered severe beatings, severe sleep deprivation and psychological torture in the notorious El Salvador prison the Trump administration had deported him to in March, according to court documents filed Wednesday.

He said he was kicked and hit so often after arrival that by the following day, he had visible bruises and lumps all over his body. He said he and 20 others were forced to kneel all night long and guards hit anyone who fell.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 158 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

This is exactly why they didn’t want him to return, and charged him the minute he landed. This story will be testimony for the cruel and unusual punishment that the US has subjected 275+ migrants to with the deportations to CECOT. We just need them to get it in front of SCOTUS.

I also can’t imagine this will bode well for Bukele, given that El Salvador is a member of the ICC, and these actions are very clearly forbidden by the Rome Statute.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

We just need them to get it in front of SCOTUS.

...you're joking, right? It's clear whose side they're on and it isn't the side of "I'm worried what history books will say about me." There's only three sane justices out of nine.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who knows with the SC? They throw out a reasonable judgement every 3rd or 4th time. Sort of like insurance companies, gotta pay some claims to get good reviews.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I don't think it's a given they will support the president in everything. In fact, I foresee a future showdown with the Supreme Court that has potential to cause a constitutional crisis.

Court says one thing.. executive ignores and does another... what happens? The legitimacy of the government is hanging by a thread. The next couple years will decide the next 20

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

In fact, I foresee a future showdown with the Supreme Court that has potential to cause a constitutional crisis.

What evidence do you have for this? Honestly asking here.

I mean, the SCOTUS basically ruled the federal level electeds, appointeds, and hirees all have qualified immunity for "official acts", and "official acts" are anything Trump says. The SCOTUS also ruled the courts cannot stop the POTUS from doing anything, except in extremely narrow ways. The SCOTUS also ruled that every regulation is a government overreach. The SCOTUS also ruled money is speech. The SCOTUS also ruled that Trump can, at will, deploy the military on US soil to wage war against it's citizens.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s not entirely correct. “Official acts” are to be determined by the judge presiding over the case. Since no charges against the President have been filed or heard, “official acts” have yet to be legally defined.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, official acts are going to be determined by judges appointed by Trump? How do you think that will work out?

BTW, charges were laid against Trump, and he was convicted. And then, served no jail time, and the sentence was commuted.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You’re talking about two different things. The charges that were heard, resulting in Trump’s conviction, were NYS charges. The federal charges have yet to be heard.

Trump cannot pardon state charges, so a state judge can determine an official act if there are new state charges.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, in the event of state charges, as long as he runs for an office, he is immune from everything then, correct?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nah. He was convicted of the state charges. That’s my point. He did not use immunity in that case. Therefore, “official acts” have yet to be defined by a judge.

He could be charged by the state as POTUS, and the state judge would determine of the acts that defined the criminal activity were “official acts.”

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[–] ernest314@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

reading their scathing dissents is one of the things that helps me stay sane; god bless the work they do--I don't know how I'd put up with going to work having to deal with blatant gaslighting for the rest of my life

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

They’re not just scathing, they’re instructional. Justice Sotomayor outlined how to challenge the recent SCOTUS ruling on nationwide injunctions. A new injunction based on her guidance was filed three hours after the ruling.

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 15 points 2 days ago

We just need them to get it in front of SCOTUS.

What do you think that would accomplish? Case gets to SCOTUS, SCOTUS rules the administration was 100% correct, they are all terrorists, and anyone who defended them is also able to be denaturalized and deported to CECOT.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ten bucks nothing happens.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

No thanks. I don't need to waste my money.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel so bad for this man, because even if he's acquitted of all the charges, the insane right wingers will never let him have peace. They'll hound him and his family forever.

Heck, even if he is guilty and the jury determines as such, it's still not an excuse to torture him to death either.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Too many Americans seriously believe failure to carry state documentation makes you legally a non-person. And being undocumented while brown flags you as part of an invading army.

He's no better than an Arab, a Russian, or one of the dreaded Chinese and deserves to die in misery as an example to others

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 45 points 2 days ago

It's a torture camp, explicitly known for being a torture camp, and used by Trump's administration for that purpose.

"Coming to the US? We might pay El Salvador to torture you."

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Remember when Trump swore he was a member of "MS13" and our "news media" helped him out by publishing obviously photoshopped pictures of his hands with "MS13" tattooed on his knuckles?

Let's get some follow-up pictures of his hands and see if that tattoo is still there.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They weren't even photoshopped. They were literally just indicating the meaning of each tattoo. Which they of course said were MS13.

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[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 104 points 3 days ago (24 children)

His own lawyer requested to keep him in jail because they fear the moment he is released he will be immediately deported again.

Our system is so broken that sitting in jail is preferable to being on release because of DHS.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So many people will hopefully sue and get settlements down the line, i just wish the global community could punish the US for all this bullshit

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If a Presidential candidate ran on the platform of "we're going to join the Hauge, and give up our veto power at the UN" I would vote for them.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Eh... We just need to get rid of veto powers and have an actual enforcement arm.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Right? The Federation is a long shot but we're not even getting the backstory from The Expanse at this point

[–] febra@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Speedrun to getting assassinated by the CIA

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Can't sue. They were "official acts". So, everyone in the federal government who is a Reich Winger has qualified immunity for anything they do.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The official acts ruling refers only to criminal charges, not civil suits. (afaik, idoanal, etc)

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago

idoanal

😂

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

Qualified immunity applies to civil suits as well. Which is why we cannot sue cops.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't have to be on the Left to not be on the Reich

I feel like a lot of people miss this point

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 2 days ago

I feel like anyone working in concert with a fascist state is a part of the fascist state. I feel like a lot of people miss this point.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The supreme court's ruling about official acts only applies to the president. (The president does have pardon powers for others, but pardon powers aren't new.)

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, we all know that the entire administration can get away with whatever they like, and only Donald as the arbitrator of what is legal then, right?

[–] witten@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

They can point to their made-up laws and/or their made-up following of the laws and say that they can get away with whatever they like, but that doesn't mean we have to let them.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This problem was made by the US for the US. World cannot save US from themselves. Just as US does not have any jurisdiction over El Salvador. They are just exploiting it for personal psychopathy. Which is a step beyond even Hitler.

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