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And of course they had to shoehorn some AI bullshit in it
(why I installed this driver: because i can remap the two extra buttons as copy/paste)
+1 for using space sniffer. It's the best of such apps I've found. Unfortunately doesn't seem to get updated any more.
Windirstat or kdirstat for the win
Wiztree is much faster
Mmm, I've migrated from Windows now, but it would have interested me a year ago!
We detected you moved your mouse. Downloading 1GB of AI telemetry and 3GB of user experience optimizations…
That's not the driver but some bundled configuration & update bloatware.
Back in my days, you had to overwrite some .exe with a "0" to disable Nvidia from spying on you. The overwrite, because they would just download it again if you deleted the .exe.
I remember installing a fresh PC with win98. During installation, I disabled some windows bloatware (Imagine! You actually could do this!), and ended up with an unresponsive, non-windows app blocking the system. I killed that app and removed it from the system. Keep in mind that at this point, no network connection was set up, nor did I install any driver or program yet, this was straight from the windows install medium.
After reboot, the app was back, and again blocking the system.
Wiping the harddisk and starting installation over did not help either.
Turned out this was some bloatware installed by the BIOS whenever it detected at boot that there was a) a Windows installation that was b) "missing" their "register your PC with us" app. This needed some Windows bloatware to work, and thus failed on this machine.
This was the only time I angrily screamed at a hotline worker.
Fuck electron, fuck "web first" apps, fuck the "all application in the future will be websites" mentality.
Man, they really developed the most unfun layout system and then tried to force it to everyone
Don't look up how much space Nvidia drivers take then.
The mouse driver used with the Commodore 64's GEOS operating system uses 3 blocks on disk, less than a kilobyte.
Most of the reason why the Logitech driver is so gargantuan is a separate Chromium browser instance, because someone thought that apps should be all websites first, which lead to most GUI libraries being developed for javascript and most devs being taught to be web developers.
VSCode is also electron with a 100mb download size and 400mb install size. I think it has 1000x more functionality than some shit Logitech UI where you change LED colors. This sounds more like incompetence on the Logitech team than a problem with electron itself.
It's not like traditional methods of packing apps are without problems. If I want to install the qbittorrent flatpak on Ubuntu, it pulls in >1gb of KDE depenencies, so I really don't see how that's better than these dreaded electron apps.
The 1gb of KDE dependencies are one time only, but there's also the option of just using OpenGL + bare x11 or Wayland for GUI. If my game engine could pull it off, if IMGUI apps could pull it off, then everyone could pull it off, we just need a UI framework not ddependent on either GTK or qt.
But did it support RGB?
Didn't think so, checkmate!
A lot of fancy early RGB mouse came with a companion app that needed 10MB at most, and that was ridiculed.
The driver:
There's something inside you
It's hard to explain
They're talking about you, boy
But you're still the same
The driver for your mouse occupies a few kilobytes. The shitty app and AI garbage bloatware occupies the rest.
what the fuck?? why would a mouse need ai? ancient computer user here who is very confused lol
To better track you. I mean, "enhancing your user experience."
Maybe it can AFK my character in games for me
The AI plays all video games for you, leaving you more time to work and be productive.
It'll bring down your kd bro be careful.
Input Remapper on linux can get the job done without the need for this junk. I've used it for this exact purpose before.
It mostly can get the job done. Mice that have more then just mouse 4/5 tend to be entirely fucked and good luck.
holy fucking shit. I once programmed a mouse driver for an 8 bit computer with 32kb of ram. I don't remember the exact size of the compiled driver but it was under 1kb.
Today's tech companies probably couldn't even figure out a way to make a hello world in python without it needing 100gb of storage, an Intel Core9/AMD Ryzen 7000 or better, an internet connection and an online user account.
Maybe a Docker or two, perhaps a VM in the cloud. Is that still hip with the kids?
Baaack in my day we got a driver for our mouse on a single DD floppy...
It wasn't too long ago that a USB mouse would store the divers on the mouse.
You're thinking of the Titan submersible accident, I think. But they ended up stored on a Logitech controller, not a mouse.
That was actually never the case. The default USB mouse driver comes with the OS. And also today any modern mouse will work just fine with the default USB mouse driver in the OS.
What this abomination is is a kind of extended driver that allows the user to e.g. remap buttons on the mouse or control RGB lights. You know, anything but the actual basic functionality of the mouse.
The driver consumes a few KB. The bullshit software that you don't need to install is what's consuming the GB.
Use the offline installer, which is for offline and airgapped machines. It turns off the AI prompt builder as well as all the telemetry shite:
https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/11570501236119-Logitech-Options-offline-installer
AI prompt builder? What? It's a fucking mouse??????
It is repulsive to me in its entirety but apparently the vibe coders dig it.
But it has AI? If your mouse doesn't have AI, you're living in the past
Edit: ~~post~~ past
Give me the past or give me death
Logitech, the data company?!?!
The driver itself is probably a few megabytes only. The rest is just bullshit in the name of rgb control and preset/dpi control. You seem to be using a Logitech device, you can enable the onboard memory of your mouse, then uninstall this thing and use Logitech's Onboard Memory Manager app instead.
the driver itself is kilobytes in size. Megabytes is huge for such a simple thing
My first mouse driver was smaller than the picture you attached to this post
wtf AI in your mouse driver?
Oh yeah, totally not logging your every mouse movement, no sir, not at all!
It doesn't contribute at all to the conversation but BOOOOOOO to them for that nonsense.
Narrator: It wasn't a driver.