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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These are all invaluable survival skills, NGL.

It's the resulting FFF hairtrigger readiness that's fucking hell on the psyche, though.

[–] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fight/Flight/Freeze (though, some even add Fawn to that)

[–] regedit@feddit.online 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, as a survivor of related experiences, finding out the latter two'd been recently added to this alliterative device was, frankly, a coldly epiphanous experience. 😅🤓

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not if I constantly dissociate, self medicate, and avoid people to the point where I literally didn't process the threat.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sounds like processing the threat happened, NGL.

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anecdotal observation from college: Lots of people got hammered on a weekend, at least sometimes, but the people who couldn't draw a line and keep it from destroying their grades were mostly the ones whose parents kept them rigidly controlled at home. It seemed like those folks had no practice in drawing their own lines because their parents always drew the lines for them, so when they were on their own they went nuts. The preacher's daughter is a cliche with a lot of truth.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What does "the preacher's daughter" refer to?

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The "Preacher's Daughter" is a trope in a lot of media wherein the daughter of the local religious leader tends to be more likely to be a promiscuous troublemaker.

Preacher's Kid - TVTropes

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

There's a cliche about the daughter of the preacher being a total slut or otherwise problematic.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

That's not strict, that's abusive.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

A girl I knew in high school had parents that didn't let her do very much. She got pregnant her first semester of undergrad. I think she also experimented with some drugs, but I don't have first hand knowledge of that, just rumors.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Depends on what you mean by "strict". I think the meme is about the parents who get angry over little things but don't actually pay attention to their kids much - the ones who just assume that their kids would not dare to misbehave. However when I was in high school, I also saw plenty of kids (often immigrants) who had successfully been taught to work pretty much non-stop. I think their parents watched them (or at least their grades) closely enough that they couldn't have gotten away with anything. It seemed to work well - they got straight A's, never got in trouble, and went to prestigious universities. I can't think of a single one I knew who burned out or rebelled (while in high school - I don't know what happened to them afterwards). However, the ones I got to meet were already filtered, with the low- and medium-achievers not admitted to that school.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it is about the ones that keep an eye on their kids at all time.

The kids are unable to do anything unless they find way to circumvent all that bigbrothering.

And if they need to lie constantly, they will gain experience in it.

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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Strict for strict's sake is bullshit. Holding your kids accountable for their actions, enforcing boundaries, and channeling their energy into productive ventures might be considered strict, but that's good parenting in my book.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I've become so used to it that now I lie to any sort of authority figure or any authority adjacent figure out of habit.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They're not unlike law enforcement, in that regard.


Unrelated (probably), but i just researched this and want to tell people:

  • The US Army & National Guard has a combined troop strength of around 1 Million soldiers. source They are typically under federal control or can be "activated" (in the case of the National Guard) to be put under federal control.
  • The US has a total number of police officers & law enforcement of, also, around 1 Million. source Most of them are under state & local control.

I'm saying this because i have been wondering, in case states try to secede and trump sends all troops he commands to the states to stop them from doing so, what would be the likely outcome.

Sorry, it's a bit off-topic here, but the US situation is on my mind a lot these days.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Depends on how many states we're talking about and their geographic distribution. 1M isn't enough to hold the whole country. It probably can't even hold New York City. It could probably hold New Hampshire.

Current US military doctrine suggests you need 1 soldier for every 3 people you're trying to occupy. This is especially true when you have to assume every civilian is a potentially armed insurrectionist, and the US has a lot of guns in civilian hands. That said, fascists tend to throw out hard won wisdom like this, and tells the army they aren't trying hard enough. For as much as they drone on about how they're a bunch of tough guys, they are complete shit at actually fighting a war. Here's a former US Army intelligence officer talking about the numbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyBIqRunQ5Y

Oh, and while the existing military might follow orders to take over states "in rebellion", they're going to be doing a lot of malicious compliance. The way they did Trump's birthday parade proves it. They 100% phoned it in on purpose.

One of the side effects of Trump trying to move so fast is that he doesn't have time to purge the military and refill it with loyalists. That would take over a decade. Stalin did that to disastrous effect; the Winter War was only a technical win with catastrophic losses, and the later German invasion was barely held back. Hitler didn't really try to purge the Wehrmacht, with the Night of the Long Knives being mostly a purge of their own SS people.

Trump therefore has to rely on already loyal people with guns, which is mostly ICE, local sheriffs, and police. None of them are big enough to hold the whole country, either, or even a major state.

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