Both parties are clearly not the same, but this type of shit has me convinced the American experiment is over.
this post was submitted on 01 Jul 2025
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They both work for the same small group of people. That much is very clear.
Funny, we had similar in our ostensibly actually left wing party in the UK a few years ago. We have a democratic leadership process and the labour membership elected an actually left-of-centre leader
Reports followed Jeremy Corbyn's run as leader of the party that the BlaIrite wing (centre right part of the party) did everything in their power to sabotage him.
Social liberals are almost as megalomaniac as standard conservatives, it sadly seems. If they don't get to be in charge, no one does, in their eyes.
In Germany, pretty much all established parties and even Organizations like the churches do this – without taking the opinion of the population into account in the slightest.
I really wonder what leverage Israel has to achieve this. Instead of decisively condemning all the war crimes, violations of international law, cold-blooded murder, and systematic genocide in light of Germany's past, our politicians even invoke our "historical responsibility" while aiding and abetting these unspeakable crimes. I simply cannot explain how this is possible, even with arguments that would be remotely plausible, especially since the International Criminal Court has long issued arrest warrants against several members of the Israeli government, which are binding in Germany.
It is a declaration of moral bankruptcy that extends across virtually the entire political system and even into civil organizations.
The coordinated political hit job on Corbyn was so ugly and blatant.
Democrats would rather lose with a neoliberal than win with a mild socialist.
That’s why they picked Hilary over Bernie, knowing she’d lose. Up or out in the hierarchy.
Blue no matter who?
Showing their true colors
They make their excuses, and their reasons...
Now one could debate that the specifics behind the Harris campaign are what contributed to the loss. And true as it is, the one thing not mentioned is this is when the left finally broke away from the Democratic Party.
I've been independant since Gore in fact, and grudgingly toeing the 'vote blue no matter who' thing longer than it's been a catch-phrase. But never again.
Failing to investigate vocally confirmed vote fraud - Making 'The Squad' a dirty word - the mistreatment of Sarah McBride - the blaming everybody else but their own campaign and strategy - the wallstreet corruption - the constant capitulation
I think I can speak for much of us on the left in saying the DNC has irrevocably lost our involvement. I still encourage AOC, Swalwell, Schiff - hell anybody that gives a shit to start a new damn party
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I mean, that is the root of the problem. That and FPTP elections. It's just a mathematical reality that those combined guarantee third parties cause a spoiler effect.
Say you've got three parties. One wants to snuggle puppies, one wants to snuggle kittens, and the last wants to use both for target practice. If 66.6% divide their votes between the puppy and kitten snugglers, and 33.4% vote for target practice, the target practice party wins in our current system. That's just the mathematical reality.
We don't have to like it. Hell, we definitely shouldn't, and should push for ranked choice voting and similar changes. But it's a mistake to just ignore that that's the system we're currently stuck in.
And how large is the disenfranchised bloc at this point?
Mid terms will spell it out well enough. Nobody has polled those just like myself that won't vote for either party again.
No, DNC has fully cooked it's Goose. If the greens didn't just float sabotage candidates they would probably run some real numbers this cycle. Screw Stein and all that garbage.
No, I've been saying it since Janurary - if ANYBODY actually went out there with a populist center-left campaign - they will become the new duopoly partner. With a good message you could vacate easily a third of democratic seats if not more..
And how large is the disenfranchised bloc at this point?
Not large enough to make a difference, if by "disenfranchised" you mean "doesn't vote for either major party."
Here's the thing: In order for a third-party candidate to make any difference at all beyond acting as a spoiler, that candidate needs to WIN. Not just have a good showing. Not just have a great showing where they come in just barely behind. In a FPTP system, there's only the winner... and everyone else.
Until we have a third-party candidate who can actually win, a vote for a third party is not quite the same as voting for the candidate you're most ideologically opposed to, but it's not very different, either.
And don't get me wrong, I fucking hate that that's the situation we're in. But it is. I wish I could argue against the mathematics of it, but they're unavoidable.