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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 12 points 12 hours ago

What the fuck

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago

The point of the establishment clause is that it shouldn't matter what the majority says about religion. It should mean exactly nothing. Tyranny of the majority shouldn't be allowed to make non-Christians into second class citizens.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That's a lot of stupid morons who pretend to care about the constitution but don't.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

That's a lot of stupid morons who pretend to care about the ~~constitution~~ bible but don't.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 hours ago

Pretty much.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 10 points 15 hours ago

What the fuck Michigan

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Lookit that. The states with religious indoctrination vs states with educational “indoctrination.”

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 77 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

A map about people who paid attention in history and government class vs those who didn’t.

[–] OberonSwanson@sh.itjust.works 15 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. Grew up Christian and it convinced me to be agnostic. Even then, I still would never add religious beliefs to the teaching of children early in life, when they clearly lack intelligent decision making skills.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

I think teaching about religion is fine and actually good for interacting with people outside your culture. Teaching of a specific religion is where you run into trouble.

I had a unit early on in school and another one in my early teens where we basically learned about the origins of a bunch of different religions and cultures surrounding them. Learned a lot about people that otherwise would seem unapproachable to me.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 15 hours ago

I didn't need those classes to know forcing religion onto others is the exact opposite of what Jesus wanted

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If they want there is nothing stopping them from praying in school if they want, they just can't compel others to do it with them.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 8 points 12 hours ago

That's the thing. It's not enough that they're free to follow their religion, they need to force everyone else to follow it too.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I thought that the deeply religious states were more of a minority. Yikes.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 4 points 12 hours ago

Relative to the US average. But the US is a very deeply religious nation compared to other developed nations.

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 61 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

They are. Those areas are thinly populated.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 31 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it's land that votes, not people.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

I thought it was corporations...

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Ohio and Florida are thinly populated? Texas has a large area but also population.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

more people moved to texas and florida sine the beginning of the pandemic.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Ohio is mostly corn and "Hell is real" billboards.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but it also has the 7th highest population in the country and a higher population density than California, somehow.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

California is also big.

[–] PacMan@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

You are forgetting about Grandpa’s Cheese Barn to. Also as another user mentioned it’s a highly populated state

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

To learn anything about American politics you need a county level map.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

just look tht gerrymandered maps.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Maine is the least religious state but for some reason is gray on the chart. I'm curious about how the question was asked in the study

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

As culture wars continue to brew in schools across the United States, one unconventional group is pushing for more representation in the classroom: Satanists. This has particularly caused controversy in states like Tennessee, where an elementary school formed a program for children called the "After School Satan Club." 

This program was created by an organization called the Satanic Temple, a relatively new religious movement that purports to teach "compassion and empathy toward all creatures." However, the introduction of these clubs has unsurprisingly made parents upset, while supporters of the Satanic Temple say they are working to improve the lives of children.

https://theweek.com/education/satanists-school-representation-after-school-satan-club

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

The Satanic Temple really is great. For those that haven't heard of them, check it out. Donate. Join. They use religious laws for the promotion of logic, reason, and empathy.

[–] huppakee 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm saving this for when the civil war is about to break out and I need a rough estimate of where the front lines will be.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

If there's a civil war, Michigan will quickly be appropriated to Canada.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago

The only states id maybe be interested in as a Canadian is California, New York and Washington (also Maine because why do they even extend so far into Québec?).

For real though, with the Democrats response to Trump, I don’t really want them anywhere near Canadian politics. They’d make our Liberals look socialist

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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Idaho….? Utah? Neutral, really?

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

Utah has been getting a ton of Californians moving in. Also, Mormons seem to believe the whole separation of church and school thing.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago
[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

There is no way utah and idaho are neutral here

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

You’d be surprised. The non-Christian/Non-Mormon population of those states is extremely convinced of the need for separation of church and state.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The Mormons know what would happen to them if a true Christian theocracy arose at the federal level.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, evangelicals would suddenly be okay with Mormons because the Mormons have a lot of money (like, a lot). We all know the God they worship.

[–] qwertilliopasd@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Nothing like proximity to religious zealots to convince you that they shouldn't be anywhere near power (or children).

[–] Zier@fedia.io 8 points 23 hours ago

Tax the church!

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 points 23 hours ago

Interesting, places that many cultures and beliefs are coming led heavily oppose it, while states that are majority WASPs are for it.

Interesting that simply being around people of other beliefs can change your way of thinking.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

How was the research conducted? Their website talks about the sample size, but I didn't see how respondents were selected. They claim it's representative of the national population, but if they're cold-calling random people to ask the questions, I can almost guarantee there are going to be more older people responding because younger people tend not to answer unknown phone calls.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religious-landscape-study-methodology/

A total of 205,100 sampled addresses were mailed survey invitations. Respondents were given a choice to complete the survey online, by mail, or by calling a toll-free number and completing the survey over the phone with an interviewer. Of the 36,908 U.S. adults who completed the survey, 25,250 did so online, 10,733 did so by mail, and 925 did so by phone.

It goes on to say the results were then weighted to get a representative demographic sample, e.g. if more older people answered, younger responders would count for more.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Why just Christian prayers? Why not prayer in general?

Use a generic "what do you think about prayer in public schools?" survey, and then where states vote YES create campaigns to make satanic and Muslim prayer programs at schools in the states that were all for prayer lol

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 20 hours ago

Because most of these places have <1% non Christians in their communities. Anything else is scary

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 7 points 23 hours ago

The United States had a good run. I hope I see the entire West Coast secede in my lifetime.

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