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[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 92 points 6 days ago
[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Pakistan saying they would nuke Israel if Israel nuked Iran probably was the only thing holding Israel back from pulling the trigger. If there was ever a group of people who should never be permitted to have nuclear weapons, its the Israelis.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Trump is as dumb as a sack of hammers, and he’s looking for a nail. He just wants to treat nukes like playthings, a rich man’s flex. Just to say he did. Like a canned trophy hunt of a Lion from the safety of helicopters and trucks with everyone around him at his paid service. No risk, no personal jeopardy. Drop the bomb for lols just to experience the fact he did it and will brag about it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 8 points 5 days ago

If he drops a nuke, he instantly becomes the most dangerous man in history, they only guy willing to use a nuke for normal war purposes (for which there are nearly infinite alternative options), and to flex his ego (which has no limit). Now when he threatens a country, they will have to believe him, because he's done it before.

With that in mind, I would think nearly every nation with a highly organized covert intelligence service would decide that it's time to remove that threat from the planet.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 49 points 6 days ago (5 children)
[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

Trump cheated to win the election. Most Americans are against him.

edit: I'm not just saying this, there's evidence to suggest it

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/kamala-harris-won-the-us-elections-bombshell-report-claims-voting-machines-were-tampered-with-before-2024/ar-AA1GnteW

However, yes, the country is shit right now. I agree.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Most Americans might be against him, but the majority of those that voted voted for him. People's apathy and the DNC continually being useless helped Trump win.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago

Most Americans are against him.

I'll believe it when I see it. What I see is Trump and his ICE Brownshorts running all over the place with almost zero resistance.

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Seems to me, like there is EXTREMELY, next to zero, or perhaps zero reason to ever HAVE to use a nuke. Nuke's should be a defensive deterrent, not a first choice. I'm sure the military has plenty of other options.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago

I’m sure the military has plenty of other options.

The other option is the GBU-57 bunker buster bombs, which is what they used - but a single bomb like that isn’t capable of reaching deep enough on its own. So they had to use a significant portion of their stockpile to achieve their objective that way.

The alternative would have been to drop in special forces and have them break into the heavily defended facility the traditional way.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

If you are not ready to use a nuke ever, it stops being a deterrent. Game theory.

But this situation is not the kind where a nuke is used as a deterrent. If Israel was saying they're sorry and asking for ceasefire, while Iranians would be absolutely destroying what remains of it and not listening, then yes.

Or, if Iran had a nuke and Israelis were succeeding in destroying Iran.

But neither are true.

[–] ScizorCipher@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are 13k ton bombs that can penetrate pretty deep dropped by B2 bombers, which might be headed to the ME right now.

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[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well, they did it. Now Iran will lash out and close the straits of Hormuz. It's the only threat that they can carry out now...

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

US Reportedly Assesses It Would Need to Drop Nuclear Bomb to Destroy Iran Nuclear Facility

Well, they did it.

No they didn't. It was conventional bombs, not nuclear.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Sorry forgot about the nuclear bit of the bomb. Regardless, I want to be drafted into the psychic corps for the upcoming world war regardless of talent

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

...and we'll sink the ships, and have dogfights over the sea, and it will escalate, and hello World War 3!

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I was hoping they could wait a few more years so I'd be too old to be drafted, but looks like I'll be twerking in Tehran

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, resist the draft. Drafts are evil, do ANYTHING to avoid fighting a MAGA War. My son is the perfect draft age, and he is NEVER going to fight for MAGA. If they want it so bad, the MAGAs can sacrifice their own.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Get a doctor to say your son has bone spurs.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It is so odd that this info being publicized...

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They are trying to scare Iran into giving into what they want.

He thinks this is a genius plan.

It's stupid.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

He will chicken out and give the nukes to them... And call it the most brilliant thing anyone has ever done

they just want to test how much public outcry there would be

[–] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Don't worry guys we're not going to war.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 2 points 5 days ago

Too late, we've been at war for a long time.

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago

Yeah no hipocrisy and double standards whatsoever /s

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

President Donald Trump is not considering using a nuclear weapon, The Guardian reported on Wednesday

There’s no need to lose one’s mind over this. The headline isn’t saying a nuke should be used - it’s simply pointing out that a nuclear weapon would be the only thing capable of reaching a facility buried that deep under a mountain. The next best option would be the GBU-57 bunker-buster, but the U.S. would need to use a significant portion of its stockpile, since you’d have to hit the same spot multiple times to drill that deep. And even then, you’d likely only damage one section of the facility, with other parts protected behind blast doors.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago

Trump isn't "considering" anything. He's not a rational actor, he's a narcissistic egomaniac, unable to ask or take advice, unable to think about anything that isn't about how cool he is perceived.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I checked if this was the onion after reading the title

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

Dumbo with the big ears is pulling the strings of the empty-headed Scarecrow.

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