"It couldn't hurt to get a second opinion, at least, right?"
this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2025
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Yes they are. Those who don't take them help depopulate the planet
Arceus, if it only worked faster...
Remind them abortion is illegal in many places, that women are to be awarded certificates for having a "litter", and show them the article about the brain dead woman kept on life support for months to deliver a child slightly over one pound that now needs months in the NIC unit to survive.
Oh damn, I didn't know the baby's health was so, so bad. All that extra time of forcing "life" to still create a bad situation.
And the mother's family in beaucoup medical debt, as the cherry on top of this nightmare sundae.
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Ask them questions. Have them explain how, why. When you find contradictions or confusion, ask how they resolve them.
Get the vaccine. Best response.
Slap them in the face to bring them back to their senses.
You could agree, that there are those internationally trying to kill members of the general public. Not with vaccinations, but with misinformation. Anyone they can convince, has a chance to die. Tell them to not be a stupid lemming.
I knew several people who died from COVID and one died from health complications later. I know my reality, but I guess others may need to face death directly to learn the hard lesson.
COVID is being used to depopulate and the vaccine is for those who want to survive
Sever ties. I'm sorry.
good idea, i'm sure they'll get better on their own
They likely won't get better. And that's why you cut ties. You can't change the way they view the world. They have to come to that on their own.
It's to my benefit if other people take the time to fix their broken and bigoted family members. I wouldn't recommend someone sever times. Just because you have had experience with stubborn people who can't change doesn't mean most people are like that.
I haven't tried to unbreak anyone because I haven't known any consiratorial thinkers. But I do listen to the QAA podcast, which studies the effects of conspiratorial thinking and interviews researchers and authors and it's pretty clear that only the conspiracy nutter can pull themselves out. No amount of logic can turn them around and it's a form of self-harm to try.
“I’ll pay for yours if it means you can’t reproduce.”
Punch them in the fucking face and 300 kick their asses out the door
Are people still talking about Covid vaccines? Aren’t there new conspiracies to move onto. How about Biden being a robot?
Just ask them to pass the potato salad.
People who believe in these types of theories usually want to feel part of a club or may just be gullible. Pulling up charts and figures likely will not help as they often dismiss it or change the theory. Listening to them and asking them why they feel that way and where they got the information can cause them to critically think about it and start to form the cracks in the theory. If you think you're getting somewhere, maybe ask why vaccines and not another, more accessible form of medicine.
In this case, it sounds like the family doctor may be the source. Clarify exactly what this doctor said and what they would prescribe instead of a vaccine. It may be something homeopathic or a scam, or something else indicating the doctor is spreading a vaccine lie for their own gain.
If you're getting nowhere, consider if this family member has a history of mental illness. Some disorders make people prone to skepticism and a general mistrust of the world, or cause magical thinking. Schizophrenia, bipolar (manic episodes), and OCD can sometimes be hard to spot.
Unfortunately, it could also be something ego-centered, and being "in" on a theory forms a core part of their identity, separating them from the "sheep". They could be unempathetic to the idea of their actions spreading disease, or annoyed at the idea they have to take action to protect themselves. Based on the number of emotional responses in this thread and the general advice to block them or call them names, this is, sadly, a very likely cause. In this case, the best thing you can do is protect yourself by getting the vaccine that they won't and limit physical contact. It's a very sad reality that this line of selfish thinking has become extremely prevalent since COVID. I also had a vaccine skeptic family member who only gave it up once they caught COVID. They were lucky; take a look at r/DarwinAward to see the damage vaccine denialism causes.
Stay safe OP. I hope there is light for your family member.
Tell them the vaccine for not being whalloped with your baseball bat is to shut up about that stupid anti-vaxxer shit and you highly recommend they take that vaccine.
Not even gonna fact check myself I'm just gonna bet excess deaths fell off dramatically when the vaccine became widespread. Literally the opposite of what you'd expect if the vax was killing people.
I’m on the ONS site and there’s mountains of publications and data on Covid. Which publication did they read?
"More vaccines for me"