I saw a gif around here some time ago. A woman was walking with their kids. When the walked passed a car ready to unpark the kid ducked in front of it. No warning, no logic, just suicide attempt.
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This leash demeans us both
So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...
I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.
I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?
They used to be quite common in the UK back in the 80s. Stops kids running into busy roads, and you can also use it to hold up an unsteady toddler.
Obviously you don't use them on like eight year olds.
You don't see them much any more.
My guess is that the American working system has drained so much from their working population that leashes are required because they have no energy left to pay full attention to their children.
That, and streets are deadly hellscapes over there a lot of the time. Driving laws are barely enforced and infrastructure is almost like it's intended to kill anyone who dares to exist outside a car.
The most common way children under 4 are hit by cars is not on the street but in driveways followed by parking lots.
I'm not even from US (Asian) and i see them in my country from time to time, especially in mall. Why would you find it dehumanising when it's merely something that tied to each other wrist? It's not even tied to a neck or something, it's just handholding with extra length. It sounds crazy to me that people actually dehumanising it then call it dehumanising.
I am not referring to a string you hold, I am referring to a leash like this:
I find them dehumanizing and humiliating because they remind me of a dog leash. Look, people parent differently across the world, I remember a British-Indian comedian who was married to a Dane who said that every parenting practice she regarded as healthy and appropriate was basically illegal in Denmark.
The leash will never not be weird to me, but it is what it is. I don't think everyone who uses a leash is literally going to treat their kid like a dog, I know they probably love and cherish their kids like I cherish mine, but the fact remains that it feels off to me and I'd say most other people from my neck of the woods.
Yea, I don't get it. Reading this thread, the people seem insane to me. Yet they are all 100% up arrows.
It's fuckin wild. I used to manage a toys department in an American burger big box store in a small town so I saw some shit. It's either parents with kids on leashes or threatening them or hitting them in the aisle, my fellow Americans often treat their kids like shit, the image of the overindulgent parent isn't really what you see around. Kids get treated like this and grow up to be adults who don't break the cycle.
I can't ever remember seeing a kid wearing them here in the UK but my grandma once said she used "reins" on my dad and his siblings which would have been from late 1960s to late 1970s.
Toddlers reins are super useful if they don't want to go in a push chair and won't hold hands.
They are for toddlers freedom, not control.
Me and my sister definitely had them in the early 80s. Kids are stupid, and the alternative is you strap them in a buggy if they can't be trusted to walk.
My grandma was a disabled stay-at-home mom with a hyperactive daughter who tended to run away and wreak havoc, and all the police would soon know who to return her to. Grandma was scolded by neighbors for using a leash but able to explain herself. This was in 1970s Czechoslovakia.
I’ve seen it once in Denmark actually. But it was a severely mentally challenged kid on a train station where the parents had them in a leash. Looked weird when you’re not used to it, but I guess I can understand that one use case.
Excuse me what the fuck? A human being on a leash like a dog?
What is this, how to destroy a child's dignity with one weird trick?
It's usually for the kid's safety. Little kids especially run off sometimes; and while it'd be nice to be able to be a continuously attentive parent, sometimes you need to get shit done out and about while they're with you. Sometimes they're fine with just being carried or sitting in a shopping cart, but if not, a leash & harness (usually just integrated into a backpack) lets them wander safely while you take care of what you're there to do.
I don't think I've ever seen a kid older than 4 or so in one.
I watched as our little, barely walking toddler walked away from us in a busy department store. I followed behind, hiding behind racks, to see if he would get scared and turn around. Nope. Did not turn once. Just waddled away. I had to race and grab him from behind once he stepped onto the escalator.
It was then that I really understood the need for those leashes. Had a talk with the wife and we decided against it, but it was close.
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I'm sure it was very real moment for you. I hope, therefore, that it wasn't too cruel of me to laugh very loudly at the whole situation. Kids are.... Special.
There are kids with behavioural issues or kids on the spectrum, it doesn’t mean they or the parents are bad people. I never agreed with the kid leash and still don’t use it but after 3 years with an autistic toddler, I don’t blame anyone for using them. Would you rather that child be running lose or running circles around you? Don’t criticize people’s parenting, especially if you don’t know their situation or have never raised a special needs child.
It gave us a little peace of mind when our autistic child was a toddler. He had just started eloping and he was very fast and very sneaky. Holding his hand wasn't always feasible and we wanted to encourage some freedom and independence so a backpack with a tether was a good option, especially in crowded areas. He was free to explore something if it interested him but the gentle tug gave him enough physical feedback to understand that he needed to stay close to us. Now that he's older we can just verbally remind him to stay close if he starts wandering off.
I've always felt weird about parents who have those backpack leashes for their kids, but now that I've been living next to my in-laws for a year, who have 8 children, I understand some of them.
I refuse to take some their kids anywhere unless one of them is with my wife and I.
One would absolutely go sprinting full speed away and hide from us just because he thinks it's hilarious.
Two would wander off because they saw something shiny and their brains are like an etch-a-sketches where every time a new thought enters, the old one has to get wiped away.
One would do the exact opposite of anything we say just because he figures he can.
And three others would absolutely just wander off, not because they want to but just because kids aren't always the best at spatial awareness and simply get too far away. And would be terrified if they noticed their adults were nowhere in sight.
You lost a kid. That's only 7
In fairness, that's why I feel like getting a leash.
Plus the oldest is 13 and at least she's responsible enough for us to look away for a few minutes and she will still be there.
My mom would just walk away as if she didn't even have a kid with her. The panic and fear of losing my mom and having to find her again in a huge ass grocery store is what eventually kept me close from some point on
Nowadays that mom would get arrested for neglect or some bullshit.
My parents sucked but I'm grateful they at least didn't leash me like a dog. They degraded me enough already.
My brother was leashed, but he would also run into traffic and chase animals if you let him.
ITT: people who doesn't have kids, doesn't interact with kids, or doesn't have to raise a particularly difficult kids, talks about raising kids.
OOP sounds like an insufferable person tbh.
As a parent of a special needs child we currently leash when attending large events (he is a flight risk) I would laugh so hard if someone asked me if he's a rescue
I was a leash kid
Tell us about how it molded your personality
The leash was fine.
The choke chain really had an effect though.
I don't remember it at all. I have ADHD which may be related to why they got me a leash.
I remember being on one of those. They were fairly common in the 80s. I also deserved it because I was a little shit that would sprint away at the first opportunity in the grocery store.