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Both Trump and his "border czar," Tom Homan, have said California officials could face arrest if they're perceived as impeding ICE operations.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed back against threats of arrest by Trump administration officials, remaining defiant as he oversees clashes between law enforcement agents and protesters in response to immigration raids across Los Angeles while also managing an ongoing power struggle with the federal government.

In an interview for MSNBC with NBC News’ Jacob Soboroff, Newsom called Homan's bluff, urging him to "just get it over with" and move ahead with the arrest.

“He’s a tough guy. Why doesn’t he do that? He knows where to find me,” Newsom said. “That kind of bloviating is exhausting. So, Tom, arrest me. Let's go."

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

This guy sucks soooooo much. I hate that he's probably going to use all this in a presidential bid.

It'll probably work. In the unlikely event we do have another election. I'll probably vote for him too. But he does suck when he's not taking advantage of a fat orange shitbag. Just remember that.

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Hi all, I hope people hear this and the post is not hidden. This is an insecure system, and talking on here about things you want to or will do will be used by the regime.

Please take this as it is meant. I fully appreciate the anger and the pain you are all feeling, and you are totally right to fight, but you must fight smart.

DO NOT LET YOUR ANGER GET THE BEST OF YOU. If this goes the way it's looking like it might, direct fights with whatfever is left of the States' forces is suicide, and the good guys need all the boots on the ground you can muster.

There are many veterans of the war on terror who are literal experts on the tactics needed to win this; seek them out.

Assume all coms are monitored because they are. Look after each other, people.

A friend who knows the score.

[–] MetalMachine 30 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Don't think for a second Newsom is a hero just because he opposes Trump. He's a very corrupt individual.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 18 points 12 hours ago

Last time we fought fascism we allied with lots of adversaries to take down the larger threat. I'm down for doing that again.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Honestly, short of some miracle undoing this whole mess, this was a flavor of outcome I was quietly hoping for. At some point, politicians are going to realize - much like the president's base - that they're going to lose power unless they mount some kind of opposition. For the very worst ones out there, power is kind of their whole bag. Take it away and they get very angry; they may even do something about it. It's kind of the tacit driving force behind any "checks and balances" scheme: power-hungry bastards trying to out-power-hungry-bastard each other. In a gross way, we kind of depend on it.

I'll take a Trotsky over a Stalin any day. Besides, this is Hollywood shit. The gov of California is a relatively blanched position. It's a showpony job by design. Newsom has power here because everyone that has power in Sacramento and in the county system supports him. Everybody fucking despises Trump except the neonazis at this point.

[–] trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

not nearly as bad but yeah, hea basicslly republicans from a decade ago cosplaying as a democrat, appeals to the california republicans, or like not appeals, calms them down enough or whatever

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What is it about important blue states, like California and New York, that keep voting for corrupt pieces of shit(Eric Adams)‽ Again and again¿ Like I'm an out and loud proud social democrat in probably the reddest state, but it gets exhausting trying to juxtapose that with trying to tell people how corrupt every single repuglican is.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

$0.02: good people know enough to not take the job, let alone run for it. It's expensive to run for office, doesn't pay enough, eats up your life, you're constantly advertising to stay employed, and your co-workers are all politicians. It's very much a "I offer myself as tribute" kind of a situation, even for extraordinary people.

Meanwhile, a corrupt person knows that it's worth all the trouble if you convert political power into (illegal) money.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

Yep, I had a friend that was one of those I can change the world types. He was major of a place for a while, he said it sucked because you can barely accomplish anything, ans if your staff doesn't like your ideas they work against you in subtle ways like not bringing you the relevent information on topics or reports etc. Basically clandestine backstabbing all term

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[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 61 points 1 day ago (16 children)

One guy who's actively defying this orange turd and all the fucking tankies on here would rather shit on Gavin because he's not the perfect online liberal like they are.

You people are the fucking problem right now.

The American left is engaged in a slow and unconscious suicide. Meanwhile, conservatives are fucking evil as fuck.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

He's thrown vulnerable people under the bus and has no principles other than what he thinks will help his career. Yeah, he's doing the right thing here, but let's not pretend he's good because he's doing the bare minimum

We can work with him while recognizing he's not a true ally

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago (11 children)

When someone is cooking a good meal, even if they are generally bad at cooking, shut up and let them cook.

[–] AnalogNotDigital@lemmy.wtf 12 points 21 hours ago (10 children)

Fucking this.

Furthermore, when people won't even cook at all (online leftists who do fucking nothing but complain), they have no space to complain when someone is doing any cooking.

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[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 5 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Exactly. I'm so tired of watching the left destroy themselves from the inside. Progress is slow. The right are clearly masters of playing the long game, they've been building to current events for decades. They're happy to take the 10% wins bit by bit. They're happy to make sacrifices for their progress.

Meanwhile the left demands nothing but perfection, and constantly cannibalises itself for not being perfect and revolutionising the world day 1.

You don't have to suddenly love the guy, rewrite history, or swear loyalty. You just have to know when someone's actually helping and not get in the way.

The right wins because they fight together. Business conservatives, evangelicals, fascists, libertarians. They might hate each other behind the scenes, but they march in line, and they'll eat burnt toast with a smile if it gets them closer to running the kitchen.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

A rational and situational understanding of the situation gets a lot of spears thrown at you, a lot of people claim left or right, I think for the most part the ones demanding absolute perfection with no compromises really just want a war. We’re in a world of broken boy soldiers with no glory to kill or die for. We’d rather devolve.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 20 hours ago

He's not perfect but Newsom's one of the few political figures resistance to the Trump regime can crystallize around. Yes I'm well aware he's the type of guy who'd like to find common ground with these assholes but he's at least willing to risk provoking Trump's goons into overextending themselves.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, shit. There's a lot to not like about Newsom, but I can think of 100 democrat politicians that would have folded like wet Kleenex by now. He could be a lot more aggressive about this, but he's clearly trying to exhaust all the normal channels. Critical support for Gavin.

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[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gavin Newson kept California safe during the peak uncertain times of COVID.

Gavin Newson survived a recall that was initiated by the trump blowhards in Orange County and the Central Valley.

We do NOT NEED 2,000 national guards deployed to L.A. Trump WANTS to make things escalate, and 2,000 troops WILL make things escalate.

Your dipshit dictator is siccing military troops on citizens. This is war against citizens.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

He did some great things during the peak but, since, he's frequently been nothing but a corpo ghoul. Sabotaging efforts to break up convicted killer and "power company"^*^ PG&E. Supporting rate increases so that the board of convicted killer and "power company", PG&E didn't have to face any actual penalties for killing people. Adamantly opposing any wealth tax. Putting significant support behind RTO/quiet layoffs.

EDIT: Forgot my own footnote.

^*^ "power company" here used in quotes because they seem more practiced in getting away with murdering people though negligence and avoiding consequences for knowingly contaminating water supplies with carcinogens.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was a supporter for a while, but the more I get to know him, the less I like him. He's just another Corporatist Republican-Lite Democrat, and those are the losers that got HitlerPig elected in the first place. If he becomes President, HitlerPig, or someone worse, will be back in office in 2032.

I want the next Democratic president to be an aggressive, no apology, hard core reformer, who isn't afraid to stand up to Sociopathic Oligarchs and Traitors.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Yup. I've been pissed off at him since he started using the pied piper approach to avoid competition from the left, during Trump's first term. He's done a lot of good and bad since.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

"That kind of bloviating is exhausting."

Bloviate - talk at length, especially in an inflated or empty way.

Instantly added to my lexicon. There's another word I've often used when I should have been using this one, because the other word (malapropism) isn't exactly what I am meaning a lot of the time but it was the closest thing to what I was trying to convey (someone talking out of their ass in a way that tries to sound intelligent when it isn't).

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