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But I do understand why some men would find it insulting

Good IMO. Maybe men need better role models. I find it alarming that men in general don't find it insulting that rapists like Tate and dumb fkn meat heads like Rogan claim to represent masculinity.

I say, keep praising men like Pascal and shitting on men like Tate. Maybe the message will finally get through.

Lesbian here, so maybe not the target audience for this. However this kind of meme and discourse makes me somewhat uncomfortable. Like, really? Pedro Pascal is -the only nice guy- in the world, every other guy is trash? Too often I hear women speak about men as if they're inherently bad people, rather than victims of the patriarchy just like them. It reeks of "that's just the way men are" and "boys will be boys", except now it's being used to shame and admonish. Shame isn't going to change mindsets, it's only going to make people defensive. It's not as if men are genetically assholes, but these kinds of memes sure make it sound like they are.

It bothers me because I have a son who will grow up to become a man (at least that's how it's looking right now). I worry about what he internalises when he hears that people expect he'll grow up to be a sexist asshole, just because he was born a boy. I have to defend against that just like I defend my daughter when sexism is directed at her, because frankly that's exactly what it is. If I were told from a young age that the default expectation is I'll grow up to be trash just because I have a penis, why bother to do better? I'd probably also listen to the Tates and Petersons who make me feel good about myself instead.

I understand why women are angry and frustrated, they have every right to be. I've also been on the receiving end of sexist and frankly traumatic shit because I was born a girl. I just don't feel like it'll get any better by creating more division, more "us vs them".

This is the natural continuation of choosing the bear. We found The Universal Exception. And I truly don't give a fuck if a meme of a dorky pretty 50 year old man hurts someone's feelings.

I can envision three types of men reacting to this:

A) cool empathetic good guys like Pedro pascal who will realize this is a hyperbolic joke and chuckle a lil bit B) insecure, but not bad dudes who will get all huffy and respond with "#notallmen" C) scary mean men who will take great offense and yell or break things because this meme hurts their feelings but they only understand rage

This analysis, of course, is also a jokey joke and not a doctorate level dissertation, and therefore, it should not be taken too seriously.

Love you all, be safe. May we all meet a Pedro today.

I will never not upvote Pedro...

Speaking as a trans woman: This meme in particular? Just seems like lighthearted fun, using a joke to praise somebody for being a good person.
But sometimes people take it too far, and the limit for me is when it's treated like there are zero exceptions, all men are bad.
I didn't draw that line arbitrarily. I have lived experience that shows the "all men are trash" crowd are far less likely to treat me as a woman, and more likely to view me as a now vulnerable man who they have an opportunity to take revenge on. Things like laughing at me for having problems they'd be supporting other women for. My mom used to have a friend like that, who laughed and gave me the classic "welcome to being a woman" every time I brought up things like not being able to go home for a while one day because a car tried to follow me there, or when disruptions in my hormone treatment lead to pain and emotional instability.

This space is shifting into TERF territory real quick

Looking at this meme for what it is, it's literally saying "#yesallmen *except Pedro, so I'm not a bigot <3"

It's a really cowardly way to try on ideologies without acknowledging the blatantly harmful aspects

And this space being for women is fine, but the mandatory requirement to say all men are excluded in every post title makes this space reek of the ways TERFs isolate and control women.

Eh, I get vaguely lesbiphobic vibes from that image, but I don't think it's intentional so I'll give it a pass. Also I prefer glorifying David Tennant.

Pedro Pascal seems like a supportive sweetheart. Meanwhile it seems like David Tennant is the supporter who woke up and chose violence. Also he was really hot as Crowley, ngl. Sucks about Gaiman, Good Omens had some really strong queer vibes.

I read it as just another fun celebration of a lovely man while also showing the boys a lovely role model.

I don't think we have to consider men's opinions on every meme we create, they certainly don't consider women's opinions when they post misogynistic memes

Having said that, this meme is very, very light ribbing, I think even a lot of men will agree that Pedro is especially attractive to women

I have no idea who that is tbh

Thoughts on the meme? Eh... He's great, but so are a lot of other people. I think there could be more focus on him being a good ROLE MODEL (and why), since a lot of people can't seem get subtext or nuance. But even then, idolizing him in this way already kinda does that. People just have egos, so this all just has to play out, and all of us do our parts to find and help find truth.

i have not seen this meme before and i have said myself that pedro is the reason i remain attracted to straight men 😭 i have been sharing terrible dating experiences with my ex- both are insane but his dates were no where near as dangerous +manipulative as mine. my ex is very masc and one of very few genuine good men i could vouch for. he has some resentment toward men in general for similar reasons of abuse, fully understands the man-hating memes, and often finds himself empathising. i dont think any good man would be unfamiliar with the crisis of misogyny post-Me-Too, or would be bothered by women expressing whatever they need to feel over it.