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[–] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 58 points 1 day ago (9 children)

A bit of topic, but it pains me to see how powerful high end phones got. Like most people just use them to text and scroll social media. Why do people spend that much money?!

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The big benefit is that much horsepower allows the phone to very very rapidly "race to sleep" in that the faster it can crunch the numbers then return to a much slower clock the less power it'll consume overall

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Especially as the phone gets older and apps get more complex.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Genshin Impact does make my phone toasty.

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I keep my phones for 6-8 years. I’m in my 40s and have only ever bought 3 phones, going back to the iPhone 2 3g

[–] degen@midwest.social 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just say you've never cracked a screen, everyone and their brother will be wet

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Never cracked a screen‽

[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There are real video games for phones now, and I'm pretty sure emulation is up to at least on the gamecube era. Slap a controller on it and a phone is pretty much just a hyper-powered gameboy advance.

[–] EddoWagt 8 points 12 hours ago

I can totally emulate PS2 and some Switch games on my phone, but never really use the power

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

theres also isnt much difference, so the higher end , aka flagship ones are slightly better than the previous editions. no need to spend 800-1k+, i bought a OPR12 instead. pixels tries to justify thier flagship prices with thier useless AI chips.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yea, I got the op 12 because it was just $50 more than the r on Amazon at the time.

It's definitely powerful enough but I'm slightly disappointed by the software, arcore is just completely broken, and hdr is fairly spotty (works in yt app and photos app but doesn't work in chrome or Google photos)

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

the op12 has higher memory capacity storage, and beter telephoto lens, i dont really like the curved screen though, other than that its good. i think 13 or mostly got rid of that curved screen.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, it's probably not something I would have chosen if I had the option but I don't really care about the curved screen.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If anything, it makes me wonder why we don't have more small dedicated handheld gaming devices that aren't phones or pseudocomputers and don't cost a bomb.

Like a £220 PSP/GBA/DS-like device with decent first-party support would be really nice for me imo

[–] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You can buy handhelds for like $100 that have basically every console game up to and including ps2/ds preloaded. What else would you need?

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Something that can play PS2/GameCube games effortlessly

Maybe even a bit of PS3!

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Because we already have phones.

The solution is to release games for phones that require a controller, but most companies aren't willing to be the first ones to do it.

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[–] 7arakun@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Switch Lite is exactly this. $200 handheld that runs first party games. There are android handhelds like the Retroid pocket 5 as well.

A Steam Deck Lite would be incredible. Small, cheap, linux-based, and powerful enough to run indie games and some light 3D. I think that form factor basically needs an arm cpu though.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Yeah, I'm taking a look at the RP5 it looks quite good. I wish its GameCube Performance was better but this might be the one for me :D

If it can also play Steam games/x86 games, that would also be cracked

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago

There are plenty handhelds in all shapes and sizes in that price range for exactly this. How many more do we need?

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or just use a phone that's a couple years old

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I got an S23 for $400, upgraded from a 7 year old S9

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'd say go on swappa and pick up an S21 for 125 and be ready to go....leave the S23 for doom scrollin.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Why downgrade?

[–] aegis_sum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I ended up buying a cheap controller that clamps to my phone and run emulators. It works way better than I ever expected.

[–] tobz619@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

I know but I don't want to use my phone as a gaming device. The retroid pocket 5 could be the one for me

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago

Why do people spend that much money?!

Conditioning. They have more money so they spend it proportionally.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who doesn't want to spend £50+ a month to doom scroll...

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 12 minutes ago

people that just buy the phone instead of getting a weird contract thingy.

Yeah, I pay like $15/month to doom scroll.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still the best engineered bang for your Buck/power draw card ever created in my eyes. Power draw of a lightbulb and I put it side by side with my freinds Xbox one at release and beat its performance.

I wish companies stayed on that track.

Yup, that's what I'm using in my NAS for basic transcoding. Works great!

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I wish companies stayed on that track.

Welcome to a world of 1000W PSUs :(

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

1000W does sound big enough for a 5090, but what about the other computer components?

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[–] kadup@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Around the same as the Steam Deck when portable, but with access to significantly better upscaling.

Such a shame FSR looks so terrible, the Steam Deck would otherwise hold up much better against it.

I'm still not going to buy one and only use my Deck though.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So there really is no excuse for the new Pokemon games to look so terrible.

[–] bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There never was a good excuse other than greed and the fact that everyone keeps blindly throwing their money at them anyway.

[–] Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a !pokemon@lemm.ee fan I didn't buy for these reasons but that doesn't stop hordes of parents or certain fans from buying anyways. If they're happy, I guess… meanwhile I'll be fine as long as they don't go after ROM hacks.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Rom hacks can be so good, but why can't we move past hm's??

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

From what I've heard a lot of the same og programmers and animators from the game boy days are still in charge of making the games and they don't want a large team. They also don't want to have to work really hard or learn new skills, so basically all the work falls to inexperienced people being led by people with incredibly dated skills. Nintendo still rakes in tons of money so they don't see the need to interject.

[–] B0NK3RS@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People who buy a Switch 2 are not the same people who care about this stuff.

[–] Donut@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The majority perhaps, but there's still folks who are interested in the tech side of things.

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[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Obligatory fuck Nintendo, and shame anyone buying their stuff anymore.

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I love how my boy 750ti is in there. My first real gpu and my favorite because it was a time when NVIDIA was showing interest in getting the most bang out of lower power draw. That went out the window

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yuck, 1/4th the performance of a 3060?

I already have a 3060 laptop lmao. You can buy a 4070 lenovo laptop at walmart for $1k.

And nintendo wants to start charging $80 for games? On top of paying an extra subscription to use our own internet? Yeah, fuck that.

Sail the high seas. Your wallet and your dignity will be better off for it.

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