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The U.S. is increasing its espionage in Greenland as part of Donald Trump’s campaign to take control of the island.

Donald Trump’s quest to conquer Greenland is becoming increasingly serious.

The intelligence community directed intelligence agency chiefs to conduct a spy campaign on the Denmark-controlled island territory last week, issuing a “collection emphasis message” for information pertaining to Greenland’s independence movement, as well as an examination of local attitudes regarding “American resource extraction,” reported The Wall Street Journal. It also tasked agencies to identify individuals living in Greenland and Denmark who support the Trump administration’s goals for the island.

Gabbard was not happy to hear that the news of the initiative had gotten out. “The Wall Street Journal should be ashamed of aiding deep state actors who seek to undermine the President by politicizing and leaking classified information,” Gabbard told the Journal in a statement. “They are breaking the law and undermining our nation’s security and democracy.”

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

As in "Oh shit, they found out"?

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

This absolute imbecilic Russian operative has been using a single-word password, "shraddha" for her devices for years... And now Russia has their spy in the central seat overseeing all intelligence assets in the USA. Fucking absurd.

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

Bro your own administration is undermining itself. Thats what happens when you stack the deck with rapists, thieves and drug addicts.

We are on fire and the ones charged with extinguishing it are too busy blaming the people outside yelling "FIRE!"

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

Undermine the President by politicizing? Isn't the president's job to be political and to do politics? Isn't the dumb reason he wants Greenland political? I hate these retards.

[–] VagueAnodyneComments@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

How the fuck are you supposed to counter-spy against a regime this socially impaired and stupid? Do you have to run your op as a Xtian vegetable cartoon or do you just hang out with them while they're executing dogs in the gravel pit?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

Reminds me of the old quote

A serious problem in planning against American doctrine is that the Americans do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligation to follow their doctrine.

But even stupider

[–] jagged_circle 22 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

The US is spying on every country they can.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Sometimes if they're feeling like they want to follow the laws of the land and spy on themselves, they ask other aligned countries to spy on them in exchange for the US spying on them and then they exchange details.

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 hours ago

I mean yes, but this isn't the regular espionage you'd expect. This is trying to build a casus beli

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of countries do.

It's basic Sun Tzu: know your enemy, and your friends.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (9 children)

Greenlanders: you should really invite a division or 5 of Danish forces (maybe a joint EU mission? Get France and Germany and Poland and Sweden in there, and tell the UK they can come too) for extended exercise and potentially semi-permanent basing arrangements.

As an American: our government is clearly becoming an existential threat to you. I hate it. I am begging you to act accordingly.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Canadian here. We're in. Fuck em.

Bring Finland too; I hear they like to do spooky snow things

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

As a non-American: your government is clearly becoming an existential threat to us. We hate it. I am begging you to act accordingly.

Fair point, but in a strategic sense, Europe cannot afford to be sitting on their laurels in the face of this either

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Would that we could. "We the People" are the enemy of the State and they treat us accordingly. Of course, the easiest type of enemy to defeat is one that does not know they are your enemy, and they spent billions of dollars over decades to ruin our education systems and shove propaganda in our faces to ensure that we never find out that we were their enemy all along.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 122 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“Deep state”? What a moron.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 103 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Gabbard, you imbecile, you are the deep state now.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 60 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Maybe deep state means anyone that actually knows what they're doing. Like how woke now means anyone with empathy.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

If the deep state that these losers have referred to for decades was even a little bit real, we wouldn't even be close to the situation we are in now.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 16 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

And I'd bet they're doing the same thing to Canada.

[–] walktheplank@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

Canadians know they are for sure. Have been for some time.

[–] jagged_circle 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

We don't even have to install stingrays on our embassies in Canada.

Our own cell towers on our border collect an enormous amount of intel.

[–] Asafum 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

as well as an examination of local attitudes regarding “American resource extraction."

Ah yes, the actual reason "we need Greenland for national security." Feeding corporations. Fucking scum...

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We need it to give Russia protected access to the North Atlantic.

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's also a great place for us to be able to cuban missle crisis all of Europe.

[–] jagged_circle 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's Turkey.

The reason the Soviet Union put nukes on Cuba was because the US put nukes in Turkey. The US started the Cuban Missile Crisis.

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 20 hours ago

I was just memeing but thank you for insight 💜

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

You realize that the US has nukes inside of the EU right?

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

Of course. Why not more? Lol

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What the fuck are we spying on? You could probably just have a nice lunch with every person in Greenland for less money than it’ll cost to replace that jet that fell off the air craft carrier the other day. And that was the second jet.

Plus, we have a whole Alaska. We’re not going to lack access to the Northwest Passage. (NB: this is assuming there’s any logic at all. I have no idea why Trump is obsessed with Greenland. It’s probably because the Mercator projection makes it look bigger than it is and his assistants show him maps in the daily briefing or whatever.)

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If I had to guess, there are probably some valuable natural resources under the ice that are going to become more accessible with global warming. It’s a resource grab. Same thing as trying to get Ukraine’s minerals.

Edit: Yep I should have searched before I replied.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah. I knew it had to deal with something like that. Thought maybe it was just for the land (same with Canada) once Florida and the like go underwater, but it's about destruction for more wealth... as always.

Actually, probably both... though one has more immediate results.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I figured it was to have farmland available as temperatures increase.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

No soil. Might as well grow food in a building.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago

Iron Sky is some real life wkuk history channel type bullshit that's happening right now but it's the Uwe Boll version.

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Agent X7kR report. Day one Amaalik met Aqqaluk next to the dock. Had a discussion about the newly installed stoplight and the importance of being the first town with one. They were added to the technology inclined surveillance list. Hans had påleg toast.

[–] werty@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

påleg

Pålægschokolade ("chocolate to put on bread") are thin slices of chocolate (or vekao) that are used as a topping (in Danish, pålæg) on bread, such as rugbrød or white bread, similar to how chocolate spread is used in many countries. It is common in Denmark.

I see why they're spying

[–] jagged_circle 2 points 21 hours ago

This is how you get added to a kill list in Gaza (by Lavender)

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm guessing these journalists will be arrested until they reveal their sources for the leak. Since that is a thing the DOJ is okay with.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

All they have to do is say that they're in a group chat with Hegseth

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

politicizing

You work in politics and are openly discussing invading an ally to expand your colonial empire. By it's very nature this news is politics and that's your fuckin' fault.

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