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[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 208 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"American Nazi Party Leader Condemns Foreign Government for Classifying Nazis as Nazis"

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 164 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Note to the world, if Trump or his cronies condemn you for something, you're doing the right thing.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My first thought when I saw the headline!

BTW, the AfD immediately complained to JD Vance and asked him to do something. That's going to backfire hard.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

What does Lavrov think?

Same battle :-)

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago (14 children)

First France, now Germany. Seems Europe (at least some of us) has decided it won't sit idly and let far-right extremists burn us to the ground.

Although these are all provisional fixes. The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media. Democracy can't survive if the voting base is too ignorant to choose its leaders.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media

Find, then degrade, deny and destroy, the sources of the propaganda, and do the same to the conduits.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.

Nope. I mean it's not wrong to do that, but it would be mistaken to see that as anything but a flanking measure: You can't fight affect with cognition. We need real-world policy which alleviates people's anxieties.

[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is not a fix at all in Germany. There are no immediate repercussions of the Verfassungsschutz calling the AfD extremist. There might be more wind in the sails of the politicians that want a motion to ban them, but I’m definitely not holding my breath for it during a Merz administration.

[–] ijon_the_human@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree, it's not a fix. However it's also not just "calling them extremist". It's an official classification not just something haphazardly mentioned in a speech.

The move, announced Friday by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV), means that the AfD is no longer merely under suspicion. The agency says it now has definitive evidence that the party works against Germany’s democratic system.

A 1,000-page internal report, according to German public broadcaster ARD, underpins the decision, citing violations of core constitutional principles such as human dignity and the rule of law.

The new classification doesn’t ban the party, but it allows German authorities to intensify surveillance, including the use of undercover informants and monitoring communications, under judicial oversight.

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[–] jagermo@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

It puts some grants for them into question, so less money for the faschs.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Democracy can't survive if the voting base is too ~~ignorant~~ misinformed to choose its leaders.

People not knowing enough IS bad for democracy, but the fact that they "know" so many objectively false and harmful things is MUCH worse.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

Education allows you to reason about what you're being told and filter out a lot of the bad stuff. It's not perfect, but it helps you spot egregious "facts" and label the speaker appropriately as untrustworthy.

[–] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Make political advertisement / political messaging illegal on entertainment platforms. There's precedent for highly regulated TV advertisements, why is there such a broad exception for unregulated manipulative online advertising? Why is cigarette, religious, drug advertising forbidden but political lies and agendas allowed, endorsed even? Fines need to be 50% of monthly worldwide profit and increase by 5% for each month of noncompliance.

This simple legislation would instantly solve a lot of current issues with what's wrong and protect free, democratic nations.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The true solution would be to get the people to ditch these idiots, and to do that, we need to fight disinformation and far-right propaganda on social media.

Agreed. But it seems that the EU is also doing something about that. Just like with AfD, they've been dragging their feet for way too long but now something* gave them a jolt.

We currently have an interesting success story of Die Linke (proper left-wing party) who managed to garner votes by embracing social media and *cough* populism in, what seems to be, a Good Way.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago

Alternate headline: "Demagogue objects to objective reality"

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 week ago

Yes Marco. Yeees. Dance for daddy 47. Daddy 47 won't deport you to CECOT if you do what he says. Normalize fascism globally Marco for daddy 47 and grandaddy KGB potato. It won't get you specifically killed. Not so long as you dance the dance and sing the song, Marco. Never mind that most of the people in CECOT danced the dance and sang the song. Their only crime was looking like you in daddy 47's eyes. But you're different Marco. You're daddy 47's favorite. Sure he's backstabbed everyone who's ever helped him almost immediately. He's gone back on every deal he's ever made. But you Marco. You'll survive. Sure there's no evidence to demonstrate you'll be okay given the totality of everything.

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Germany really doesn't care what he feels.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I was going to say something like "I liked the USA better when it had no clue about foreign politics" but then I realised that maybe that's just because we weren't the target before. Is Europe now part of the USA's definition of Middle East?

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The US actually has an ally (1) in the Middle East, unlike Europe at this point.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Yes, this is not news.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Game recognizing game.

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