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This shit drives me up the wall even more than "unalive"

You can't stop people saying slurs but an entire generation will subconsciously alter their entire vocabulary because they grew up on corporate platforms with very heavily moderated text chats and comment sections and they ended up internalising the filters matt-joker

Edit: I was not aware of the AAVE origins of "ahh" which pushes it more towards the territory of legit slang. Still, I stand by my general point about automated moderation influencing language being bad

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

The other side to this is that ahh for ass is an eye dialect for certain AAVE lects (e.g. in this version of "Crank That" by Soulja Boy, "I'm jockin' on yo b#### ahh")

Incidentally, I saw a short by Unsightly Opinions today where she was talking about cutting food as a blind person, but she couldn't say either "cut" or "knife", and thus circumlocuted them as "make food smaller" and "implement". I'm reminded of Oceanian name taboos, except instead being a product of worshiping ancestors it's a product of worshiping The Algorithm.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"cut" or "knife"

I was confused for a moment then realised those words are probably on a no-no list because of violence or self-harm associations

This shit is grim

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s fucking hilarious how there legit is a fuckton of censorship everywhere but chuds yelling slurs is mysteriously exempt.

They can post swastikas but the guy who calls them a “stupid jerk” gets banned for using what are now considered swear words.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

Calling someone a jerk is mean and disruptive

Promoting national socialism is just expressing a political opinion

blob-no-thoughts

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 26 points 1 week ago

I watched a youtube video recently about the GTA games and the dude was self censoring so hard. Wouldn't say things like "suicide" or "killing yourself" in reference to jumping off a building in the game. Wouldn't say words like "sex", "boobs" and "prostitute" when talking about the strip clubs and street hookers.

It's fucking stupid

[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

this is the only thing I will be an old man about. I don’t give a shit about “aura” in all honesty but “ahh” “pmo” and “sbyau” genuinely pisses me off

Also, I’ve seen “keys” used in lieu of kys. what the actual fuck man doomer

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“pmo” and “sbyau”

I don't really have a problem with acronyms tbh

[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have the issue on the sole fact that I had no idea what it means, learning about it and forgetting right after, it’s not as memorable as wtf, lmao and lol to me

That kinda has to do more with brain plasticity than the old acronyms being better or worse though. We don't learn as easily as we used to when we were younger so we forget what the acronyms mean.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago

Yeah I've noticed this too, the universal acceptance for the most asinine form of self-censorship is utterly baffling considering the pseudo-libertarian meta of internet youth culture since the internet went public thirty years ago

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Was this self-censorship? I thought it was just coopting AAVE again.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Whenever I've googled the phenomenon I've come across explanations like this

It is an algorithm-friendly way of saying "ass", similar to how "unalive" is an algorithm-friendly way of saying "dead" or "suicide". It's self-censorship, although many of these terms evolve beyond censorship into "real words"/slang very quickly - especially when they're being used by people and in places where being "TikTok/YouTube-friendly" is irrelevant.

On the other hand, I'm a pasty white nerd from Europe so I wouldn't know

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the corpo censorship helped it proliferate and stick around but I definitely believe the origin is AAVE

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What does this even sound like in real life

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

From the Soulja Boy song I linked in another comment, evidently it's just pronounced /æ(ː)/ — so it rhymes with yeah, nah, and baa, when these words are pronounced with the TRAP vowel. What's interesting is that /æ/ (TRAP vowel) is a checked vowel, and I have to wonder if that's what allowed the /s/ to be dropped from ass in the first place: if the vowel already tells you that the next sound must be a consonant, then the consonant itself becomes a bit redundant. The other notable words that get the same treatment are bih and shii, which also have checked vowels. But I'm no AAVE linguist.

Edit: Yeah, in "Crank That", Soulja Boy also very prominently elides the ends of words with free vowels, so I guess the checked vowel thing might've just been me noticing a pattern that wasn't actually there. But who knows, maybe there's internal variation — it's not my dialect, I've never even been to the South where this sort of elision is most widespread.

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[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

cuh crashing out over ahh

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It really grates me how corporate censorship is making people talk some weird sort of baby language. You can't talk about how Israel is following in the footsteps of the Nazis led by Adolf Hitler in killing the innocent, you have to say that the blue state is following in the footsteps of the the yatzees led by Moustache Man in unaliving the innocent which kind of removes the gravity of the message. It is ridiculous.

This is different from slang, AAVE and other kinds of -lect. Those are cool and awesome. If people would say it if the algorithm wasn't listening in on them it is fine.

I don't even know how much of this self-censorship is really substantiated. On one hand you have creators who seems to be afraid that bad things will happen if they talk about cutting up a carrot, on the other hand you have creators who say shit and fuck and c*nt in every sentence and they're doing fine.

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[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

broke: asking kids to post less annoyingly

woke: putting up with how kids post because time inevitably marches on

toke: using the internet less

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (8 children)

time inevitably marches on

I'm completely fine with my inevitable obsolescence, I just think it's fucked up that language is changing to be more friendly to advertisers

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[–] Sulv@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Boomer ahh post

Stupid ahh post

[–] prole@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is no different from saying crap, dang, frick, shoot, etc and complaining about it is just what old people have done throughout history

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Saying crap instead of shit because your mom will ground you is perfectly acceptable. Having automated corpo moderation algorithms determining how people talk isn't

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[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

🎶"I'm like a one eyed cat peepin in a seafood store"🎤

Nah, I love any n all subversion of authority. Tho it might alter the language it's not the kids fault it's the censors, and if the fallout is just me hittin up urban dictionary now and again ill do it with a gotdamn smile on my wrinkled-ahh face. Get em kids!

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not angry at the kids either, I'm more just despairing thinking about the extent to which human social activity has been captured by giant corporate platforms

[–] OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Slang is cool. Complying in advance and self censoring words that aren't a big deal isn't.

All it does is crank up the speed on the euphemism treadmill

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[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

we must wield prescriptivism against the prescriptions of the corporate censors

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

while we’re here, I wanna air my personal grievance with the use of “based” in internet culture. That term is reserved for our lord and savior, Lil B and I’m fairly certain it originated as a term for crackhead (i.e “basehead”). Possibly coming from the term “free basing” meaning to take drugs orally with no casing.

I have no sources so prove me wrong lol

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wiktionary says, "A reference to freebase cocaine, via basehead. Coined by American rapper from California Lil B to describe his lifestyle."

Lil B himself said about the word, "Based means being yourself. Not being scared of what people think about you. Not being afraid to do what you wanna do. Being positive. When I was younger, based was a negative term that meant like dopehead, or basehead. People used to make fun of me. They was like, "You're based." They'd use it as a negative. And what I did was turn that negative into a positive. I started embracing it like, "Yeah, I'm based." I made it mine. I embedded it in my head. Based is positive."

I personally still occasionally use the word based in the same manner as it is otherwise commonly used in Internet culture, which does deviate a bit from the sense in which Lil B originally coined the term. It doesn't strike me as particularly problematic to say based, but maybe my State Policy on Usage of Terms Originating in Marginalized Englishes isn't doing as good a job at keeping out cultural appropriation as it's supposed to.

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

God said that?? oh, fair enough then

[–] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It always has been "aah"?

I've always said "weird aah moment".

For example:

"Boomer aah moment"

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

nah the “ahh” is internet blaccent for “ass” Truly sorry for what I’m about to do but: relevant xkcd

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol I never noticed how much the 'style' has changed since back then, guess it was gradually when I was reading them frequently

Been a while since he made one as funny as

[–] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How old are you to have that bookmarked?

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not bookmarked (at least) but old enough to have weirdly encyclopedic knowledge of 2010s xkcd

[–] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Woah, how was it being born in the 1900s?

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the tvs used to be full of static and Joe Rogan and Trump we’re relegated to reality tv. Oh and Ketchup was purple, which was the style at time.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah! The fear factor guy!

[–] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for the information elder

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

anytime my child of indeterminate gender

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[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] Cruxifux 6 points 1 week ago

When you describe it like that then yes, that is a hell world you are describing. Im absolutely unable to censor myself. That’s why I’m here.

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