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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Interesting article and it only adds to the current list of Nazi bullshit from Krasnov and his supporters.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is like poetry, it rhymes…

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

„Es gibt immer wiederkehrende Zyklen, Höhen und Tiefen, aber der Verlauf der Ereignisse ist im Wesentlichen der gleiche, mit kleinen Abweichungen. Man hat gesagt, dass sich die Geschichte wiederholt. Das ist vielleicht nicht ganz richtig; sie reimt sich lediglich.“

Theodor Reik

[–] gargolito@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

"There are recurring cycles, ups and downs, but the course of events is essentially the same, with minor variations. It has been said that history repeats itself. That may not be entirely true; it merely rhymes." Theodor Reik

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[–] gargolito@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

That historical fact is just joking.

It's what history talks about in locker rooms!

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

"Awkward economics"

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

According to DeepSeek, the average price of eggs has increased 258% since 2018.

So far.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 203 points 2 days ago (7 children)

It shouldn't but it does still baffle me how Trump is so consistently pulling from the Hitler playbook while still having as many people that do deny it

clarifyingI understand that there's a subset that support him because of that (even while denying it) but I still think (hope) that the majority of them truly don't like what Hitler did

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 130 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I think the majority of supporters "don't like what Hitler did" in that they understand that liking Hitler is socially intolerable, and not much else. They either literally can't make the connections because they're dumber than dogshit, or they're deliberately misrepresenting themselves to avoid criticism and shame.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I don't love "dumber than dogshit" to describe a group of people, even Trump supporters. It places blame and denigrates those people while giving a pass to the environment they grew up in that gave them indoctrination instead of real education.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I wrestled with this myself, but no longer. Some of them, a lot of them, are really that dumb. Yes, some were indocrinated and have environmental factors, but they may have inherited the brain cell count as well.

At this point, what will wake them up? They're fine with the racism and evilness, what will make them take a look at themselves to make them wonder if the person they worship is a conman?

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am tired of acting like "placing blame" is the worst thing you can do upon someone, and that it needs to be highly deliberate and laser-guided like those switchblade "bombs" they drop on people. We've all become so sensitive to criticism that we avoid it like slugs avoid salt.

Fuck them. It is their fucking fault. And they'll be lucky if being blamed is the worst thing that happens to them.

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

In my opinion it’s that they don’t believe the people Hitler persecuted were the right people and that’s why he was wrong. They were the kind of people who bought into the fascist and nazi propaganda from back then except now they’re buying into it about a loosely defined “immigrant criminal” and LGBTQ+ people in general.

I also think they’e mostly against the idea of concentration camps now but are slowly being groomed to support them. Given enough time they’ll fully believe death camps are necessary for the USA to be “great again”

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Lack of education. My class spent all of 1 class on WW2. I know because I spent time learning on my own.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Which is quite literally by design. Our education system is so shit because it was literally designed to produce obedient workers. Once the oligarchs who created the system were gone, the new ones did not want to replace it since it benefited them. Thus why we have so many braindead idiots who believe everything they are told. Since that they were taught to believe that what they were told in school was always the truth. This is why colleges and universities have to spend time deprogramming students to have them be able to think critically and for themselves. That is also why people with degrees usually vote against conservative policies, because they are able to think for themselves properly. They see the world for what it is and want unjust systems to be replaced with just ones.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago
[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 113 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Fascists are nothing if not predictable. Tariffs arise naturally from far-right ultranationalism. There's a few reasons for this.

One is that it plays directly into notions of national/racial exceptionalism. "Our country/race is better than all the rest. Other nations/races should have to pay exorbitant fees just to do business with us."

Second is that it severs ties with international mechanisms of diplomacy and peacekeeping. It serves as a convenient way to detach a state from its allies (who stand in the way of its conquests). This is typified by events like the Japanese Empire's withdrawal from the League of Nations, in that case not over tariffs but a war of conquest, but tariffs can provide similar opportunities to break apart treaties and start preparing a populace for the conditions of all out war.

Thirdly is that it stops trade with other nations. This forces manufacturing facilities to be bolstered in the nation, isolationism. This means that once all-out war is declared, the nation has the full-scale production facilities to create machines of war at the pace required to sustain large-scale conflicts. This creates the precarious situation of having more production than you do resources (because you can't trade for them anymore), but this problem is solved by conquering territories rich in natural resources.

And fourth, it serves as a direct prelude to declaring all out war. Trade wars are nearly always present prior to full-scale conflicts in modern history. Both Nazi Germany and the fascist Empire of Japan were widely sanctioned internationally in the years leading up to the Western, Eastern, and Pacific fronts of World War 2. These trade wars actually served fascist interests in so far as they made the lives of their citizens already feel constrained and pressured. An escalation to all-out conflict wasn't that great a change when already all their sons were being drafted and common household goods were becoming scarce and rationed.

Trump is not original. We've seen these events play out before under a variety of different circumstances. The move of economically isolating the United States from the rest of the world perfectly serves the fascist conquering aspirations of his Christian white nationalist voting base. They'll grumble about cost of goods, but they lap up his ultranationalist "making the world pay us" rhetoric like they're dying of thirst.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

Yup. There's a significant cost to having a war with a country you do a lot of trade with. You don't want to pay that cost while having a war at the same time. That could lead to economic collapse. It could even result in your military lacking the resources need to execute the war.

But if you sever trade beforehand, pay the costs of that first, then once your economy has stabilized you can invade other countries without risking economic collapse.

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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The playbook is there, is being followed, you people have the 2nd amendment and I have no idea why these people walk freely while you struggle to pay rent and pay your meals

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (47 children)

When the 2nd Amendment was written, a bunch of (trained) dudes with muskets represented the pinnacle of military power (at least if there wasn't any artillery around, even back then). So the 2nd Amendment gave the people the right to possess sufficient military power to counter the federal government. Today, having a closet full of peashooters means absolutely fucking nothing to a government with armored vehicles, tanks, helicopters, airplanes, cruise missiles, drones, intercontinental missiles and nukes at their disposal. The idea that the 2nd Amendment represents an antidote to a tyrannical federal government is just as much of a fantasy for the Left as it always has been for the Right.

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Legalize 6th-gen fighter aircraft. Give me my Pepsi harrier!

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say "no chance". Last summer Trump was a few inches from being a chunkful of splattered History.

Of course the idea that the population could take the US military full-on is ridiculous. But resistance doesn't have to take the shape of traditional warfare, and anything would be better than the current overwhelming apathy that is the response to being governed by literal Nazis.

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[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

civilian resistance has been notoriously hard for modern militaries to deal with.

hardened targets like tanks have become increasingly vulnerable.

drones are still scary, but anybody can use drones.

if you believe you're already defeated, then you probably are. i have no respect for cowards and pacifists.

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Sure. The US military can just start murdering everyone in the country with their superior firepower. Then the economy is gone and so are the relatives and friends of the soldiers.

Look at Israel failing to militarily defeat Hamas. And that is not only with the firepower difference but also with decades of supremacist indoctrination and a near total disregard for the human life of the people they designate as enemies.

Look at how the Ukrainians took over their country in 2014, throwing stones and pushing garbage cans as shields against the army and police shooting at them.

If the people in the US were dedicated to oppose a fascist takeover, they would win. Yes people will die in the process, but the idea that the army would just massacre everyone without hesitation from a human perspective is far fetched, just as the idea of the government and their cronies happily affording to loose large parts of the population is far fetched.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

No one’s talking about fighting the military. You just form an armed mob like the black panthers did and scare politicians into submission lol. 330 million guns and people in this country no one needs to fire a shot at anyone.

Like Reagan made gun control laws real quick. We should learn from our own recent history

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't say it's nothing. It's a lot less meaningful that it used to be but it can still be effective. Whoever killed that CEO last year only needed a basic gun and they managed to make America slightly better with it.

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[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Because 99.9999% of us prefer shitty life with our favorite distractions to death or prison.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It is almost like the Orange Turd is a Nazi.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 35 points 2 days ago

He has only been sighted reading one book:

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

"Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?" I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. "Who told you that?"

"I don't remember," I said.

"Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he's a Jew." ("I did give him a book about Hitler," Marty Davis said. "But it was My New Order, Hitler's speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish.")

Later, Trump returned to this subject. "If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."

Is Ivana trying to convince her friends and lawyer that Trump is a crypto-Nazi? Trump is no reader or history buff. Perhaps his possession of Hitler's speeches merely indicates an interest in Hitler's genius at propaganda

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

he has mentioned the nazis many time, and wished he had people like them on his administration.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

You mean the people that started the second world war with some of the most advanced military hardware and brilliant tactical commanders of their day and still managed to blow it?

[–] Paddy66@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For Hitler and Nazi Germany it certainly was a way to prepare for expansionist wars: https://www.richardjevans.com/lectures/autarky-fantasy-reality/

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are several countries that Trump said he wants to annex.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Canada here. Hello! Anyone?

China cut off rare earth minerals and more needed for your war machine. Canada has this in its earth. Along with all the oil, natural gas, coal, water, wood and many other natural resources you will need since you will pretty soon have zero trading partners.

He needs most rare earth, steel and aluminum to continue his reign of terror and spin up your war manufacturing even more. We have those and some means of production as well.

We are Poland or Ukraine right now, in various times in history.

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[–] hemmes@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (5 children)

But Hitler made no effort to reassure the markets, insisting that the tariffs were necessary and that he needed time to fix the ruined country his predecessors had left him… Hitler provided scant details as to how this was to be accomplished. By this point, he had broken even with the tariff cheerleader Feder, and had abandoned most of the action items for developing a nationalist and socialist economy. These items had included increased taxation of the wealthy; state supervision of large corporations; and the prohibition of “new department stores, low-priced shops, and chain stores.”

Man, this stuff sounds very familiar.

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[–] seeigel@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hypothetically, if this comic book copy of the Nazis would be just an act, what could be the benefit?

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Letting the market be easily bought up by corpos?

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And straight driving anyone who can't weather the storm out of business. Especially once the "exceptions" start rolling in.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Isn't owning the libs benefit enough?

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